No kidding Josiah...lol. Unbelievable. I dont think Toreador understands what "angles" everyone is talking about. Basically he has the same "angle" issue as the people with the 3" Skyjacker. Also, basically the same angles with the 2.5" leveling kits.

I know i have an inch between my upper a-arm and the coil spring. I highly doubt that i will come close to hitting it. If my suspension is pushed upward, then i think i would have more clearance between the coil and a-arm. If my suspension is pushed downward, then i would come even closer to the spring.

Let's face it, most people use their trucks for street use only (even people with lifts). Maybe even mild off-roading once in a while. But i dont think I will tweek my suspension enough to make the a-arm hit the coil.



This is a crappy picture angle, but I have an inch all the way around

 

LOL...NOPE!

 

LOL!!! I'm on the high horse??? You just finished telling about 1/4 the readers here their "lift" isn't real. I took a look at my truck today and geez maybe I'm imagining but it sure looks 3" higher than stock up front. It all depends what you choose to use your truck for. Mine is multi-purpose: 1. As my everyday ride (car) 2. To haul stuff (truck) 3. Long road trips (SUV). I was thinking of the Rancho suspension lift, but why? I have no desire to do any offroading or mudding whatsoever with this truck. Thus the Truxxx 3" lift is fine for my purposes with no "clunk" to worry about. It's a quality level kit period. BTW, your "best friend" Freeky also went the level kit route. Is his a "real" lift??? Now who is it on the "high horse"???

On a good note this is a good time to update my mods list something I haven’t done in awhile. I think I’ve got it all but may have forgot some things. Some mods I payed more for some less. I could have payed big bucks for an entire cold air intake system, headers, and entire exhaust system but the Airaid intake tube and Magnaflow muffler gave me great results:

2004 Oxford White Lariat Supercab, 4x2, 5.4L, Tan leather trim interior
Options:
Tow package, power rear sliding window, Audiophile, running boards, back up sensors

Airaid Intake tube $90
Wix Air Filter $14
Magnaflow muffler installed by AA Exhaust $160
Hypertech Power Programmer III $285
Window Tint installed by Dynamic Audio and Tint $125
Truxxx 3” level kit installed by B.A.P. $600
Line-X sprayed by Al’s Line-X $250
Penda Bed mat $60
Ziebart undercoat spray by Auto Appearance Experts $250
Dynamat soundproofing interior floor Free
Painted stock grill and front valance plastic parts
Putco Grille (bolt over) $350
Ford Decals $20
Painted tailgate and fender flares by ShowTime Creations $150
Bilstein Shocks front and rear $130
MBmotoring Razor 17” wheels with BFG Rugged Trail T/A 285/70/17 tires installed by Discount Tire Co. $1,500

4/11 rear gears (to be installed by Jim Click Ford tomorrow!!!)

Westin Bull Bar (black) (not yet installed) $220
Quiet Kote Sound proofing 10 gallons (not yet installed) $130
Lloyds Heavyweight 48oz Floor mats (not yet installed) $170
Depo Auto Lamps black headlights (not yet installed) $150
LMI Welding Seat Lift Kit $125 (not yet installed)

Future mods:
Dead pedal
Sway bar (Belltech)
Interior trim kit
Wheelskins Steering Wheel cover
K-cover tonneau
Exhaust tip (maybe)
Mud flaps (maybe)
Steering stabilizers???

 

Look I'm not even gonna pretend to have the expertise on trucks or mechanics most on here have. You sound like you know what you are talking about and I appreciate the reasoned responses. What you say here is true I'm not an offroader. I have done offroading years ago and simply said it's not for me. Crawling over rocks is boring to me. I play in basketball leagues and golf. I'm sure some will say those sports are boring to them. Fine. My truck will be on smooth road 99% of the time. My bet is long term I'll have very few problems with this kit based on one of (if not THE) top suspension shop in Tucson. They highly recommend this kit for 4x2 trucks. Take some time and read through this it's not a lot of reading:
http://www.truxxx.com/compare-lift-kits.htm
http://www.truxxx.com/
Bottom line is to each his own. My mods fit my needs Thumps fits what he likes to do. If he needs a specific lift to "feel" superior to others here then that's his problem. All I did was make true remarks about Freeky and Ken and then listed what I did to my truck. I stand by that.

 

What you and alot of other members on this board have is called a "LEVELING KIT".

This is a real "SUSPENSION LIFT".

 

Here is the "AUTOSPRING LEVELING KIT". What alot of people think a lift is, but it really is not.


Here is "A REAL SUSPENSION LIFT".


There is a little diffenence between the two.

 

Yeah, like the name that is clearly displayed on each product. (leveling kit/lift kit)

 

Yep. I wanted my truck to look "level", so I bought a "leveling kit". LOL These things will make the front ends work a little harder, but that doesn't really bother me...apparently, since I installed it. I do think, however, that 4X4s may have more to worry about later with near maximum articulation on the CV joints. Anywho, anytime you mod, there is a chance for things to go a little MORE wrong than stock...but, stock is so boring. Also, if you don't do any extreme off-roading, then you should be fine.

 

Maybe you didn't read what I said. I looked into the Rancho 4" suspension lift and for my needs it wasn't worth it. I was quoted $2,800 for install. I don't do any offroading nor intend to. I wanted better visibility and a better look for the truck. So I put in the 3" Truxx level kit and it LIFTED the front end of the truck 3". We seem to have a communication gap in these forums. Have fun with your suspension lift. It looks great and I'm sure it works great. As does mine.

 

OK, maybe I'm just not getting it. I'm well aware there is a difference between a level kit and a suspension lift. But I swear to you the front of my truck is UP by 3" after adding the Truxxx. I promise it is. Before the lift the nose was down, *** in the air. Now it is completely level. I have much better visibility front and back. Plus it smoothed out my ride a bit (an unexpected bonus). I don't offroad. I have a 4x2 that is city driving and hauling only. Some of us don't want to go the suspension lift route. I'm happy those that did are enjoying it. But trust me I absolutely love the level kit I installed. The front end seems to be up 3" and I measured pre and post to verify it. Maybe it's an illusion but really it looks level. Whew........

 

I think this volly of opinions started because of control arm angles. Bottom line...if you don't have a drop bracket (like with a lift), then the angles will be more extreme whether you installed an AS, Truxx, Daystar, other...leveling kit. Just enjoy your mods!

 

The Meaning of Tact:

Tack is being able to tell someone to go to hell, so that they enjoy the trip!

 

It is a lift. It's LIFTING the front end. If it is not a lift what is it??? If you are changing the ride height you are either LIFTING it or LOWERING it.

 

they are leveling kits. thats what they are sold as i dont know why people keep saying hey look i got a lift kit for my truck. now i could care less what people use on their trucks but call it what it is. as far as that email from auto spring i sure as hell would never buy anything from them with that kind of customer service.

 

Just curious to know if you feel you've lost a lot of business because of this?

When you own a business and talk to your customers this way...you are risking a lot. I know you probably wish this thread had died back in January but I for one am glad it was brought back from the dead. I've made mistakes in my life and have paid the consequences. I know you apologized, but in this case that doesn't quite cut it. Pull up your diaper?