Hollow sounding Doors.
#16
I guess
I guess in the absence of anything substantial to make a stink about a natural complainer has to look for the small stuff. I personally can't believe you called customer service either. If it was me on the other end of the line I'd have gathered a bunch of other operators around and put you on speakerphone so they could get a good laugh.
#17
Hollow sounding doors
Mr Eharri3 in response to you how many trucks have you built ? My point is at sometime the American Auto Companies have got to quit Cheaping up their products if they want to continue to survive. I spent 30 years building F150's
how much time have you spent doing it? If you don't complain they will continue to cut corners. Next time you go to buy a new product Look at the Details not just the design. Auto companies Love people like you who pay no attention to the details because that way they don't have to address any problems. I assume your retirement doesn't rest on Ford making a better product and staying competitive and not losing market share. Small things do make a difference. Sitting around reading and writing in forums does not make you knowledgeable but I guess it sure builds one big Ego !
how much time have you spent doing it? If you don't complain they will continue to cut corners. Next time you go to buy a new product Look at the Details not just the design. Auto companies Love people like you who pay no attention to the details because that way they don't have to address any problems. I assume your retirement doesn't rest on Ford making a better product and staying competitive and not losing market share. Small things do make a difference. Sitting around reading and writing in forums does not make you knowledgeable but I guess it sure builds one big Ego !
#18
Originally Posted by Craiger53
Small things do make a difference. Sitting around reading and writing in forums does not make you knowledgeable but I guess it sure builds one big Ego !
Get real.
#19
Originally Posted by Craiger53
Mr Eharri3 in response to you how many trucks have you built ? My point is at sometime the American Auto Companies have got to quit Cheaping up their products if they want to continue to survive. I spent 30 years building F150's
how much time have you spent doing it? If you don't complain they will continue to cut corners. Next time you go to buy a new product Look at the Details not just the design. Auto companies Love people like you who pay no attention to the details because that way they don't have to address any problems. I assume your retirement doesn't rest on Ford making a better product and staying competitive and not losing market share. Small things do make a difference. Sitting around reading and writing in forums does not make you knowledgeable but I guess it sure builds one big Ego !
how much time have you spent doing it? If you don't complain they will continue to cut corners. Next time you go to buy a new product Look at the Details not just the design. Auto companies Love people like you who pay no attention to the details because that way they don't have to address any problems. I assume your retirement doesn't rest on Ford making a better product and staying competitive and not losing market share. Small things do make a difference. Sitting around reading and writing in forums does not make you knowledgeable but I guess it sure builds one big Ego !
#21
Oh well
Originally Posted by Craiger53
Mr Eharri3 in response to you how many trucks have you built ? My point is at sometime the American Auto Companies have got to quit Cheaping up their products if they want to continue to survive. I spent 30 years building F150's
how much time have you spent doing it? If you don't complain they will continue to cut corners. Next time you go to buy a new product Look at the Details not just the design. Auto companies Love people like you who pay no attention to the details because that way they don't have to address any problems. I assume your retirement doesn't rest on Ford making a better product and staying competitive and not losing market share. Small things do make a difference. Sitting around reading and writing in forums does not make you knowledgeable but I guess it sure builds one big Ego !
how much time have you spent doing it? If you don't complain they will continue to cut corners. Next time you go to buy a new product Look at the Details not just the design. Auto companies Love people like you who pay no attention to the details because that way they don't have to address any problems. I assume your retirement doesn't rest on Ford making a better product and staying competitive and not losing market share. Small things do make a difference. Sitting around reading and writing in forums does not make you knowledgeable but I guess it sure builds one big Ego !
I don't really understand what you expect from your dealer either. There is no malfunction or defect in workmanship so if you came to my dealership expecting a remedy I would strongly suspect you're a scammer trying to get free dynamat or sound-deadening. I think there's a specific personality type that's never happy with anything and always has to complain about something. Kind of like Tony Soprano's Mom. Maybe that's your category, I don't know. But if you really want to start a consumer campaign over hollow-sounding doors I guess be my guest, strike a path to more solid-sounding door-slammings for all of us in the future. I am sure F150 owners everywhere will consider it a monumental break-through in worksmanship and quality when they can close their doors to a nice, sold, thunk. Never mind that it's one of the quietest, smoothest riding, and most capable vehicles in its class. If the doors don't sound right that makes it a big disappointment. Everybody should trade in their 04-06 F150s for 85s and 86's so we can bring back the legendary quality-control standards of that era.
Last edited by eharri3; 02-26-2006 at 07:53 PM.
#22
#23
Originally Posted by Kool Aid
How a door sounds when it closes is a car salesman's gimmick.
Nothing more, nothing less.
It's hard to hold a straight face when these guys start closing the doors in an effort to sell me the vehicle.
Next thing they want to sell me on is the sound system.
Nothing more, nothing less.
It's hard to hold a straight face when these guys start closing the doors in an effort to sell me the vehicle.
Next thing they want to sell me on is the sound system.
I've owned a number of Cadillacs (not the imports with the caddy badge) a Q45, several Mercedes etc. and there is a very real difference in the way the doors sound/feel on closing.
Not a sale point on a truck, and no, I never had a salesman mention it. Ever.
And for those that don’t want to play with the sound, people like my wife, the high end sound systems on do add one or two more points to why she likes certain model cars.
That said, the nit picking is extreme on these boards, isn’t it?
Oh well, half the fun, I guess.
Chris
#24
Originally Posted by eharri3
That is very high quality vehicle you drive. You're nitpicking on a very subjective deficiency that has no real bearing on how the truck rides, handles, or holds up in the long-run. To be honest, there are so many more important things that I look for in a vehicle, I don't listen to what sound the door makes when it closes because that has absolutely nothing to do with anything. You probably have a perfect truck that has had no mechanical problems and I think it's sad that rather than being able to sit back and enjoy that you want to make a big deal about hollow-sounding doors.
I don't really understand what you expect from your dealer either. There is no malfunction or defect in workmanship so if you came to my dealership expecting a remedy I would strongly suspect you're a scammer trying to get free dynamat or sound-deadening. I think there's a specific personality type that's never happy with anything and always has to complain about something. Kind of like Tony Soprano's Mom. Maybe that's your category, I don't know. But if you really want to start a consumer campaign over hollow-sounding doors I guess be my guest, strike a path to more solid-sounding door-slammings for all of us in the future. I am sure F150 owners everywhere will consider it a monumental break-through in worksmanship and quality when they can close their doors to a nice, sold, thunk. Never mind that it's one of the quietest, smoothest riding, and most capable vehicles in its class. If the doors don't sound right that makes it a big disappointment. Everybody should trade in their 04-06 F150s for 85s and 86's so we can bring back the legendary quality-control standards of that era.
I don't really understand what you expect from your dealer either. There is no malfunction or defect in workmanship so if you came to my dealership expecting a remedy I would strongly suspect you're a scammer trying to get free dynamat or sound-deadening. I think there's a specific personality type that's never happy with anything and always has to complain about something. Kind of like Tony Soprano's Mom. Maybe that's your category, I don't know. But if you really want to start a consumer campaign over hollow-sounding doors I guess be my guest, strike a path to more solid-sounding door-slammings for all of us in the future. I am sure F150 owners everywhere will consider it a monumental break-through in worksmanship and quality when they can close their doors to a nice, sold, thunk. Never mind that it's one of the quietest, smoothest riding, and most capable vehicles in its class. If the doors don't sound right that makes it a big disappointment. Everybody should trade in their 04-06 F150s for 85s and 86's so we can bring back the legendary quality-control standards of that era.
#25
#26
The auto companies do actually "engineer" the sound or feel of the doors. Its a quality attribute - not real quality but perceived quality. People like a nice solid "thud" when the door shuts, makes them think its a quality product. On my truck I too noticed that it wasn't the perfect "thud", but its not tinny or worse yet "sloppy" sounding like cars used to be. Not perfect but not bad either IMO - and it is a pickup.
#27
Originally Posted by eharri3
I guess in the absence of anything substantial to make a stink about a natural complainer has to look for the small stuff. I personally can't believe you called customer service either. If it was me on the other end of the line I'd have gathered a bunch of other operators around and put you on speakerphone so they could get a good laugh.