Looks like my nmbers are a little lower than what I would have expected to see, but considering everyones trucks were reading lower than before thats not really a concern of mine. The first run was on level three and it turned out 253.91 rwhp/326.29 rwtq. The second run was on level two and got me 240.55 rwhp/325.70 rwtq. The third run was stock with the addition of exhaust and intake with the edge unconnected and that got me 235.70 rwhp/262.86 rwtq. Looks like the level two and the level three are pretty close to each other peak number wise. Here is the break down of how the numbers were across the board on level 3 vs. stock. I CANNOT believe the difference in numbers all across the board. Its not just the peak numbers, but it is the low end that starts off way higher and maintains that power level all through the band that is actually useful. One problem Ken noticed, and he is probably the best modular motor tuner in the United States since I believe he owns and drives the worlds fastest 2 valve 4.6l non aspirated mustang. He said that by looking at the dyno graph it looked to be going lean after 4000 rpms, maybe detonating and it was causing the curves to jump up and down irratically, and it just so happens that it only done this with the edge on it. The curves were not irratic when stock and it kept making power all the way up to 5100-5200 rpm. But with the edge you could tell that the power was suffering on level two. It was only on level two that it was leaning out on, but he couldnt tell how bad cause he didnt have a data reader hooked to it since there were 25 trucks to dyno. Level three seemed to be fairly steady and didnt jump around, but level two was all over the place. Let me know what you guys think about these numbers. Im by no means a dyno expert, and dont know why it would be doing this. Thanks.

Level 3

HP: 165@3000 TQ: 290@3000
----220@3500-------325@3500
----240@4000-------318@4000
----253@4500-------295@4500

Without Edge (with exhaust/intake)
HP: xxx@3000 TQ: xxx@3000
-----145@3500------215@3500
-----195@4000------260@4000
-----210@4500------240@4500
-----235@5100------245@5100

 

Nice numbers

 

Thanks for posting these numbers. I've been thinking about getting a tuner and I really didn't want a "canned" tune like a hypertech. This is definatly pushing me even more to buy the edge.

 

Great post thanks for the feedback. I'll be looking forward to getting my edge.

 

I'm no expert but what I see is a 75 hp increase at 3500 rpm and 110 lbs of torque. That is a huge increase at a good rpm for the street. I can't wait until mine gets here.

 

I wonder how high the HP on level3 would be at say 5100 rpm?

Why stop at 4500?

Did it start dropping that soon?

 

Yes you read right. The max peak gains were 18 hp, and 64 ft. lbs. I was a little skeptical when i put the edge in at first, I had only had the truck for a month and it seemed ok other than the awesome transmission chages it made. But when I drove away from Modular Depot on the stock setting I rememebred how slow and sluggish this truck really was before. I had to pull over and install the tuner at level three again, it was sickening. Im not much of one to notice small changes, but this is a huge difference, if you want a great tuner that offers a wide variety of options, this is for you. Plus everything the evolution display gives you is just hands down the largest advantage edge has over all the other programmers. Thanks for the compliments guys.

 

Seems lean? He didn't plot the mixture with the graph? You can add in fuel on the edge as needed. Lots of things, including wheel slip can cause jumpy graphs. My car, even with racing slicks on it has that happen, but neither the on board 02 readout or the exhaust sniffer at the dyno show anything resembling lean. What did his sniffer say?

Bill

 

Well as far as stoppin at 4500 on my numbers, its because the powerband on the edge was starting to drop at about 4000 rpms. You notice that the power drops in hp and torque on level three over 4000 rpms. Where the stock tune keeps the truck making power over 5000 rpm's. Dont know why, just ended up like that.

 

We didnt get that involved on this dyno run since there were so many trucks to dyno. I was the 17th truck to go, it started at 8am and I dynoed at about 2:30. And there were about 10 more trucks after me. He said that he could hook some things up to check it out and see what its doing. Iwant to find out why this is doing this though. I may email edge and see what they say about it.

 

The WOT Fuel was set at 1.60, and octane rating was set at 95, which is 2 clicks over the 93 I have in it.

 

So the 235 "stock" horse power number was with the airraid and MAC exhaust, correct? From what I had seen through some searches, stock hp dyno numbers are typically in the low 220 range. That would give you a bit more from stock then the 18 horses you saw on the dyno, probably closer to 30 horse power. Looks like good numbers on torque as well, which is probably why it feels so much faster.

Thanks for posting the numbers!

 

Also one other thing to consider......When you came in there, you had a tank of 93 octane right? If you ran your stock configuration for test purposes with the 93 still in the tank, that WILL hurt your numbers. The "stock" tune is not designed to work with 93 so running 93 with it will actually yield loss in HP, which is why it seemed to make such a HUGE difference in low end torque by switching tunes. If you ran a stock pull with 87 octane, you would get a better, more accurate baseline. Now I realise this is near impossible on a dyno day like that. The only way to do that is to run 87 one tank and dyno it stock and then 93 and do it again tuned, which is a hassle. Just thought I'd give a little heads up!

 

I am trying to figure out why you would be happy if the Edge is causing your truck to go lean in open loop..
My truck was at 14:1 lean in stock format, but after the custom tuning it is right on the numbers we are commanding in open loop..Your torque number is nice, but I would be concerned about the lean condition..

 

yeah Im sorry for the comfusion, I meant with the Airaid jr. and the exhaust those were the base numbers. I did not do a dyno before the exhaust and the Airaid. And I'm so happy with the edge cause it gives me a ton of power across the entire rpm range, not just a spike. And we are SPECULATING that it is running lean, its not a fact. And that is only a specualtion on level 2. It did not do this on level 3, which was a pretty steady curve, and all I ever run is level 3. If I would have had time I would have turned fuel up to 1.90 on level 2 and 3 to see what effects that has on it, but again that was not the case. So in short, this programmer makes nice gains, awesome transmission changes, superior evolution display options, and its a great price. Why woudlnt I be happy with it. I will be honest, Im not totally satisfied with level 2 programming until I get it back on the dyno and see whats going on with it.