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Old 05-19-2008, 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Pickuptruck.com
Update #1: 05-18-08 20:33 PT

A source has come forward with additional details about power ratings for 5.4-L 3-valve V8 equipped 2009 Ford F-150s. The ratings vary, whether the truck is fueled with regular gasoline or E85 (85% ethanol / 15% gasoline).

- 320hp and 390 lb-ft (running on E85)
- 310hp and 365 lb-ft (running on gasoline)

Im a little disapointed now. Not about the fact that the truck "doesnt have enough power", but rather that they're still pushing E85 so badly. I just hope GM gets the hell going with the Volt and the hydrogen Equinox. Forget my motor trend thread, i guess they were right.
 
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Old 05-19-2008, 11:22 PM
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E-85 does as much good as slapping a band-aid on a gunshot wound. What a waste of resources and time.
 
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Old 05-19-2008, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by scott1981
E-85 does as much good as slapping a band-aid on a gunshot wound. What a waste of resources and time.
I'd still prefer to fuel up with E85 then have to deal with battery packs and hydrogen.
 
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Old 05-20-2008, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Tbird69
I'd still prefer to fuel up with E85 then have to deal with battery packs and hydrogen.
Agreed! Plus god forbid when something goes wrong on one of those 'green' engines.

If we can work out the technology to produce ethanol from something other than foodstuffs then we would have have a very good thing. Here is a company I've been keeping an eye on. Looks promising:

http://www.coskata.com/index.asp
 
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Old 05-20-2008, 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Tbird69
I'd still prefer to fuel up with E85 then have to deal with battery packs and hydrogen.
....what's the price of E85 roughly & how many vendors pump it?
 
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Old 05-20-2008, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Tbird69
I'd still prefer to fuel up with E85 then have to deal with battery packs and hydrogen.
Right it is a simple temporary solution. Hydrogen or hybrids are a much better long term answer as they net real results. You dont even gain MPG with E-85, all they are doing is saving you 70 cents or so a gallon. We are still consuming just as many gallons. I will never own a hybrid and E-85 is not a bad option to have, but I would hardly dust my hands off and say it was a good solution to the problem
 
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Originally Posted by JBMX928
Im a little disapointed now. Not about the fact that the truck "doesnt have enough power", but rather that they're still pushing E85 so badly. I just hope GM gets the hell going with the Volt and the hydrogen Equinox. Forget my motor trend thread, i guess they were right.
That photo of the 320 hp was from Ford literature. The rumor of the lower hp is from an unknown source. I'll believe what the Ford literature says until I hear otherwise from Ford. I also hear that the E85 models are not able to be bought in California so this may be another rumor that will turn out to be false.
 
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Originally Posted by Rambo
That photo of the 320 hp was from Ford literature. The rumor of the lower hp is from an unknown source. I'll believe what the Ford literature says until I hear otherwise from Ford. I also hear that the E85 models are not able to be bought in California so this may be another rumor that will turn out to be false.
shut up your an idiot who doesn't know what your talkign about. my dad has a friend who works for ford and he showed him the broshure with 310 hp.
 
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shut up your an idiot who doesn't know what your talkign about. my dad has a friend who works for ford and he showed him the broshure with 310 hp.
****. Information posted here has been documented by multiple sources. do you really think we are going to believe what you say you heard from your dad who heard from a friend who is a Ford employee?

Insults, poor spelling and third party information have all made a great case for the validity of the "facts" your posting
 
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i hate you
Go smoke a blunt and pig out on taco bell, hippie.
 
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Originally Posted by mr_andy
....what's the price of E85 roughly & how many vendors pump it?
Not too many, yet. Once E85 starts to gain popularity you will start to see more stations making it available.

Originally Posted by scott1981
Right it is a simple temporary solution. Hydrogen or hybrids are a much better long term answer as they net real results. You dont even gain MPG with E-85, all they are doing is saving you 70 cents or so a gallon. We are still consuming just as many gallons. I will never own a hybrid and E-85 is not a bad option to have, but I would hardly dust my hands off and say it was a good solution to the problem
Good points, in fact all the studies I've seen on E85 show that you get less MPG because it doesn't have the same amount of thermal energy that gasoline has. Fuel cell technology is very interesting (to me anyway), you get 2-3 times the range of gas engines with zero emissions, other then water. That being said it's going to be a sad day when the rumble of a gas V8 is replaced by the hum of a fuel cell or battery powered vehicle.
 
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Are you sure those numbers aren't backwards?

I was pretty sure that all the old E85 capable Tauruses and Rangers made less horespower while running on E85.

E85 has a lower heating value than regular gasoline, which means reduced power in gasoline engines
 

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Mr Andy,

Check out this site http://e85prices.com/ for E85 prices and stations. People who live in Colorado and a few other states can save money by using E85 even with the lower fuel mileage.

1522 Total E85 Stations in the United States

Sorry I forgot to put the link in the post
 

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