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Old 01-05-2010, 02:08 PM
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That is an assumption that is probably incorrect. Get your truck weighed and then subtract that number from your GVWR. Most people with 2009+ Screws are in the 5800-6200 pound range.

Ford's door sticker is probably closer. Ford knows how much the base truck weighs and how much each trim level and option adds/subtracts to each axle. When each truck is built, it is easy for a computer to calculate the curb weight of each truck.

Do you have a copy or link on the curb weight calculation for the options?
 
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Old 01-06-2010, 12:47 AM
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I have a 2010 FX4 with a 1212 lb payload and GVWR of 7200 lbs per the door stickers. When I checked the Ford website prior to purchase I saw that a short wheelbase 4X4screw had 1510 lbs payload which to me seemed adequate. I was shocked when I saw the Tire and Loading Sticker 2 months after I purchased the vehicle. Like many of the other payload posts my concern is that with a fully grown family in the truck I have little capacity for additional cargo. In fact, my VW Passat has almost the same capacity as the truck.

One point that is worth noting is that Toyota's website re. payload / towing states that 20" wheels reduce payload. My truck has 20" wheels and 275 by 55 tires and I am sure most of the trucks referred to in the various posts with low payloads have a similar configuration. Changing to 18" wheels and heavier duty tires may be worth researching further.

By the way I received bogus information from the dealer that sold me the truck who after investigating my concern told me today that the 1212lbs capacity was the weight that could be put in the bed !! That would be nice !
 

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Old 01-06-2010, 05:14 AM
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id like to see what your passat would look like with 1212 pounds in the trunk
 
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Old 01-06-2010, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Dellman
I have a 2010 FX4 with a 1212 lb payload and GVWR of 7200 lbs per the door stickers. When I checked the Ford website prior to purchase I saw that a short wheelbase 4X4screw had 1510 lbs payload which to me seemed adequate. I was shocked when I saw the Tire and Loading Sticker 2 months after I purchased the vehicle. Like many of the other payload posts my concern is that with a fully grown family in the truck I have little capacity for additional cargo. In fact, my VW Passat has almost the same capacity as the truck.

One point that is worth noting is that Toyota's website re. payload / towing states that 20" wheels reduce payload. My truck has 20" wheels and 275 by 55 tires and I am sure most of the trucks referred to in the various posts with low payloads have a similar configuration. Changing to 18" wheels and heavier duty tires may be worth researching further.

By the way I received bogus information from the dealer that sold me the truck who after investigating my concern told me today that the 1212lbs capacity was the weight that could be put in the bed !! That would be nice !
Tires and wheels have no affect on payload from what we worked out on the last thread. Even the ATR scorpions have a high enough payload rateing to cover a 1/2 ton to it's GVWR.
 
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Old 01-06-2010, 08:22 AM
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Do you have a copy or link on the curb weight calculation for the options?
Only for 2003, page 61. I have seen later versions of this document that do not include the same information.
 
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Old 01-06-2010, 10:10 AM
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Me thinks 1,510 was base truck with no options....
 
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Old 01-06-2010, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by BIG_ole_TRUCK
Some of you may remember the payload capacity thread, especially the low payload capacity for some of the '09 Platinums. A search can find the thread on payload.

What made me revisit the payload capacity was my registration slip. Something is missing or wrong. Look at the pictures below for the edited pics of registration and tire capacity.

The empty weight of the truck is 5,408 lbs per registration. Given the registration and title were issued from the manufacturer's statement of origin (birth certificate for vehicles), the empty weight is certified by Ford.

GVWR is 7,200 lbs. Deduct 5,408 empty weight, leaving 1,792 lbs for payload capacity (includes passengers, fuel, and cargo). But the tire capacity sticker shows maximum payload of 1,153 lbs, 639 lbs less than expected.

Did Ford mistakenly under rate the payload capacity on the tire pressure sticker? The difference of 639 lbs is too large to be ignored.



I beat this to death here before downsizing to a 2010 F-150 from a 2008 F-350 diesel...

Your GVW (7,200) less the SHIPPING weight, I said SHIPPING (5408) leaves 1792 of payload. But, now you need to deduct the 150 pound driver, and 280 for fuel (assuming you have the 36 gallon tank), which leaves you 1362 of payload. The 209 pounds difference from your pillar sticker cargo weight to calculation above is a bit of weight, but substantially less than your 639 pound discrepancy. These dry weights are just that, dry, with no driver and very little fuel (3 gallons).

I am guessing, but your registration listing 8,500 is the maximum weight that title class will allow at that price. It's not your truck will carry it, but what the paperwork will allow. In Illinois here, we get the same thing with trucks and trailers.

I have a 2010 Crew with the 6.5 foot bed and it's loaded. I am just under 1,700 pounds payload, but I have the Max Tow, which boosts my truck to a 7,700 pound GVW, which adds about 400 ACTUAL pounds to the payload. I visited more lots looking at trucks before pulling the trigger to downsize, and think this increase for 2010 trucks is a piece of paper. Tracking it all down, the 2009 AND 2010 trucks share the same Max Tow parts, yet the 2009 vs 2010 stickers of exactly the same equipped trucks show the 2010 with close to a 400 pound advantage. I sweated within a 100 pounds because I was close with my 2008 F-150 and was forced out of it because of "book" payloads vs. "actual" payloads. After drivin my new 2010, I think the Oval hit it on the head and this rig may just be the best compromise between luxury and hauling.
 
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Old 01-06-2010, 05:34 PM
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If you buy a 1/2 on pickup 1/2 ton is 1000lbs why is it we expect to be able to put 3/4 ton into it? whether its passengers or cargo?
 
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Originally Posted by gsxr1300
If you buy a 1/2 on pickup 1/2 ton is 1000lbs why is it we expect to be able to put 3/4 ton into it? whether its passengers or cargo?
Because it is a moniker or namesake. Just a nominal value now in the real world of trucks. If all "1/2 ton" trucks were marketed as such, then what would companies brag about then and compete with one-another over?
 



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