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Old 01-08-2010 | 12:11 PM
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Diesels are a completely different animal, and most use single turbos; although there are a few sequential turbo versions out there. The issue on diesels is that they are not putting much out in terms of psi, so there is less load/stress on the turbo. The EcoBoost engine is a true twin-turbo, not a sequential style.

I hope the EB becomes a great engine for Ford, but given the history of most high-HP v6 turbos in the past, they don't tend to hold up to the abuse most people put them through. Turbo engines just have a lot less leeway in terms of A/F ratios and fuel grades. Detonation or preignition can occur much more easily in an FI engine than an NA.
I think what'll help to alleviate some of these concerns is the enormous advancements in engine controls (certainly since 1995, lol).

Things like individual cylinder knock-sensing via feedback directly from the sparkplug gap, injector design & implementation, sensor advancments in general, sophisticated adaptive software, materials science advancements and very fast PCM's to handle all the math in realtime

Ford's gonna have all manner of safeguards on these babies, methinks.

6.2L + twin-turbos = Ego Boost
 

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Old 01-08-2010 | 02:14 PM
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Just cought this article that states the F150 recieveing an Eco-boost in 2010
Scheduled for 2010 are:
Engines Transmissions
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1.6-liter Fiesta I-4 6-speed automatic FWD
2.0-liter Focus DI I-4 6-speed PowerShift Fiesta
2.0-liter EcoBoost I-4 6-speed PowerShift Focus
3.5-liter F-150 EcoBoost V-6 6-speed manual Mustang
3.7-liter Mustang V-6 6-speed automatic Mustang
5.0-liter Mustang V-8 6-speed automatic TorqShift Super Duty
5.4-liter Shelby GT 500 V-8
6.2-liter Super Duty (gas)
6.7-liter Super Duty Power Stroke
Personally I would love to see the Eco-Boost (rename it too for the F150) and then a diesel, that would rock!

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...-80997137.html
 
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Old 01-08-2010 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by WestF-150
Just cought this article that states the F150 recieveing an Eco-boost in 2010
Scheduled for 2010 are:
Engines Transmissions
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1.6-liter Fiesta I-4 6-speed automatic FWD
2.0-liter Focus DI I-4 6-speed PowerShift Fiesta
2.0-liter EcoBoost I-4 6-speed PowerShift Focus
3.5-liter F-150 EcoBoost V-6 6-speed manual Mustang
3.7-liter Mustang V-6 6-speed automatic Mustang
5.0-liter Mustang V-8 6-speed automatic TorqShift Super Duty
5.4-liter Shelby GT 500 V-8
6.2-liter Super Duty (gas)
6.7-liter Super Duty Power Stroke
Personally I would love to see the Eco-Boost (rename it too for the F150) and then a diesel, that would rock!

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...-80997137.html
dont look at the trasmissions because it didnt paste correctly.
 
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Old 01-09-2010 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by WestF-150
dont look at the trasmissions because it didnt paste correctly.
If the 5.0 and 6.2 were scheduled for the F-150 in 2010, would Ford leave it off the press release? The 5.0 and 6.2 probably won't be here til 2011 or the 2012 model, arrrrrrg!!!!!
 
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Old 01-09-2010 | 04:39 PM
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I'm curious to see how the 3.5 Ecoboost V6 will perform in a full size truck, especially with a load. I'm also curious to see what the payload/tow ratings will be.
 
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Old 01-09-2010 | 07:15 PM
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If the 5.0 and 6.2 were scheduled for the F-150 in 2010, would Ford leave it off the press release? The 5.0 and 6.2 probably won't be here til 2011 or the 2012 model, arrrrrrg!!!!!
Well no. The Raptor IS 100% getting the 6.2L and it was not mentioned either.
 
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Old 01-09-2010 | 08:03 PM
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I think they didn't mention the 6.2 for the f150 cause it is already released ..
and they are mentioning it for the super duty....

do we expect more details this week from detroit at naias????

I bet tow ratings go up because of the weight savings
 
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Old 01-09-2010 | 11:52 PM
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do we expect more details this week from detroit at naias????

I bet tow ratings go up because of the weight savings
Is the Eco supposed to weigh less than the 5.4 weighs now? I hadn't heard anything about that. I know they mentioned the new engine for the SD being lighter. Sure would be nice, the F150 is heavy enough already.
 
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Old 01-10-2010 | 01:06 AM
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Yes
 
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Old 01-10-2010 | 08:25 AM
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I'm in the market for a new truck this year. If they offer the Eco-boost in a trim package I want that option will be very high on my list.
 
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Old 01-10-2010 | 10:30 AM
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; even less if people start adding boost jets and upping the boost for more power.
Wait wait wait...whats a boost jet? I want to know?
 
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Old 01-10-2010 | 10:37 AM
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Diesels are a completely different animal, The issue on diesels is that they are not putting much out in terms of psi, so there is less load/stress on the turbo. .

Really? How much boost does a powerstroke diesel make, and how much boost does your average saab/volvo/whatever make? I don't have facts on hand, and could be wrong, but I was under the impression that a powerstroke or similar cummins, or duraturd made well over 20psi factory. How many gasser sedans, ecoboost included do this?
 
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Old 01-10-2010 | 04:04 PM
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The most boost I have seen in my 08 KR F-350 is 34psi. I have never floored it so I am not sure how high it will really go.

John
 

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Old 01-10-2010 | 06:28 PM
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We may learn more tomorrow. Monday is the start of the Detroit auto show.
 
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Old 01-11-2010 | 12:19 PM
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Boost jets are the most common way to regulate/increase boost pressure. They "fool" the wastegate into seeing less pressure than there really is. Boost jets are basically just welding tips; different diameters create different boost pressure.
 



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