Spotted a 2011.5? EB on the way home today
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Go back 30 years and they would've laughed at the idea of a 4 or 6 cylinder in a car, when now those V8s struggle to hang with modern cars of only 6 (and in many cases, 4) cylinders.
I'm not saying I'm not a V8 fan, but if we're going to save some $$ in our wallets, we'll have to figure out how to make more power out of more efficient engines. If, someday, we can have a V8 truck that will get 26+ mpg, I'll be all for it. But we may have to give up that burbly exhaust note to move forward and into stronger (or at least equally strong), more efficient engines.
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I disagree... It's called "PC". Everyone has to try to be "green" now days.
One BIG exception. Cars have been and still are getting smaller and lighter. They are built like aluminum cans now, and are 2/3 the size that they were in the 80's. However... My 2010 150, is bigger and heavier than my '04 was. I'm sticking with my gut on this one. My gut screams to not just walk away from the EB, but to RUN away. After all, this is the company that brought us the Pinto. No one is perfect.
I still say that 2-4 years from now, you won't be able to give one of these things away. What I DO see coming out might be a reduced displacement V-8 version of the EB. Gee... Why point out the obvious though.
I hope that I am wrong about the impending failure, but I don't think so.
Cant argue with you there. If you want mileage though, go buy a Prius.
Go back 30 years and they would've laughed at the idea of a 4 or 6 cylinder in a car, when now those V8s struggle to hang with modern cars of only 6 (and in many cases, 4) cylinders.
I still say that 2-4 years from now, you won't be able to give one of these things away. What I DO see coming out might be a reduced displacement V-8 version of the EB. Gee... Why point out the obvious though.
I hope that I am wrong about the impending failure, but I don't think so.
I'm not saying I'm not a V8 fan, but if we're going to save some $$ in our wallets, we'll have to figure out how to make more power out of more efficient engines. If, someday, we can have a V8 truck that will get 26+ mpg, I'll be all for it. But we may have to give up that burbly exhaust note to move forward and into stronger (or at least equally strong), more efficient engines.
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I'm a loyal Ford man as well, and seeing what Ford has done in the last 3-4 years, I am confident in their application of technology. They have tested the EB extremely well, and I am certain it will do fine. There is replacement for displacement! At least I hope...I don't really want to drive to Texas just to buy you dinner!
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I agree with you Aviator, except on the cars. I think the 5.0 will be the engine for the main line F-150. The EB sounds good on paper, but let's see in 4-5 years if it holds up. Remember the turbo 4 cylinders from the late '80s?
With respect to the cars, they actually are getting smaller, but they make much better use of the space. Rather than have hoods that are a football field long for the same size block some of he larger engines are now, they use that space for the interior and safety equipment. Cars are also heavier. Although the sheetmetal (or lack thereof) doesn't feel as thick and sturdy, the actual cars are. My 2011 Mustang GT weighs more than my 77 1/2 Trans Am did. But, you don't have to go work out to be able to open the door on a hill like the Trans Am. All that safety equipment and he electronics are heavy.
With respect to the cars, they actually are getting smaller, but they make much better use of the space. Rather than have hoods that are a football field long for the same size block some of he larger engines are now, they use that space for the interior and safety equipment. Cars are also heavier. Although the sheetmetal (or lack thereof) doesn't feel as thick and sturdy, the actual cars are. My 2011 Mustang GT weighs more than my 77 1/2 Trans Am did. But, you don't have to go work out to be able to open the door on a hill like the Trans Am. All that safety equipment and he electronics are heavy.
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I agree with you Aviator, except on the cars. I think the 5.0 will be the engine for the main line F-150. The EB sounds good on paper, but let's see in 4-5 years if it holds up. Remember the turbo 4 cylinders from the late '80s?
With respect to the cars, they actually are getting smaller, but they make much better use of the space. Rather than have hoods that are a football field long for the same size block some of he larger engines are now, they use that space for the interior and safety equipment. Cars are also heavier. Although the sheetmetal (or lack thereof) doesn't feel as thick and sturdy, the actual cars are. My 2011 Mustang GT weighs more than my 77 1/2 Trans Am did. But, you don't have to go work out to be able to open the door on a hill like the Trans Am. All that safety equipment and he electronics are heavy.
With respect to the cars, they actually are getting smaller, but they make much better use of the space. Rather than have hoods that are a football field long for the same size block some of he larger engines are now, they use that space for the interior and safety equipment. Cars are also heavier. Although the sheetmetal (or lack thereof) doesn't feel as thick and sturdy, the actual cars are. My 2011 Mustang GT weighs more than my 77 1/2 Trans Am did. But, you don't have to go work out to be able to open the door on a hill like the Trans Am. All that safety equipment and he electronics are heavy.