2011 info weariness
#1
2011 info weariness
Anybody else getting tired of Ford dragging out the release of the info on the 2011 trucks? At first I could understand they were trying to get the excitement built up. But now it is getting old. I'm losing interest. Yes I want a 2011 F-150, and it is good that the 3.5 is making @ or near 400 in both hp and tq, but it is all useless info until I know mpg. Some people have put estimates out that the 3.5 will get 3-4 mpg more than the 5.0 with our gas prices they way they are it would have a payback rate of less than 30k miles, but we don't know since the real numbers haven't been put out.
Ford also seems interested in keep the American buyers in the dark as far as pricing on these. Yes I can get the base price, but I don't want to buy a base vehicle. I can go to the dealership and waste their time getting a price quote, but that is pointless since I am still trying to decide which trim level and which options I want to buy. A perfect example I read a person order the FX2 with luxury package, 20's, navi, and the 3.5 total cost was 44K. I don't see the logic, for me, in buying that truck, since I can get base a KR with the same options plus the wheels, navi, and 3.5 for a couple thousand less. Until the actual prices come out my opinions can't be confirmed or refuted.
Anybody else getting tired of being told to wait? The launch is supposed to be in about a month, but we still don't know prices or economy numbers.
Ford also seems interested in keep the American buyers in the dark as far as pricing on these. Yes I can get the base price, but I don't want to buy a base vehicle. I can go to the dealership and waste their time getting a price quote, but that is pointless since I am still trying to decide which trim level and which options I want to buy. A perfect example I read a person order the FX2 with luxury package, 20's, navi, and the 3.5 total cost was 44K. I don't see the logic, for me, in buying that truck, since I can get base a KR with the same options plus the wheels, navi, and 3.5 for a couple thousand less. Until the actual prices come out my opinions can't be confirmed or refuted.
Anybody else getting tired of being told to wait? The launch is supposed to be in about a month, but we still don't know prices or economy numbers.
#2
yeah, me too. I couldn't wait to get hp and torque info on the ecoboost, then I got to drive one at Texas Motor Speedway. If Ford had of had pricing and mpg figures available I might have ordered one that day. Now I am just getting tired of coming to these forums and having no new information available. About all you see are the same posts such as "should I buy an 2010 or 2011", "which new engine is better" and "I don't want no stinking V6".
I have went from checking the forums from 3x a day down to 1 time and about ready to check them less than that. The trouble is no one has any real information, it's all speculation and opinion.
For the original poster, you can do a build and price here http://start.chromecarbook.com/ccb.jsp?ccbId=503374
I have went from checking the forums from 3x a day down to 1 time and about ready to check them less than that. The trouble is no one has any real information, it's all speculation and opinion.
For the original poster, you can do a build and price here http://start.chromecarbook.com/ccb.jsp?ccbId=503374
#3
For the original poster, you can do a build and price here http://start.chromecarbook.com/ccb.jsp?ccbId=503374
#4
A perfect example I read a person order the FX2 with luxury package, 20's, navi, and the 3.5 total cost was 44K.
#5
Thanks for the build and price. I have come up with 34K. :o I am wore out too waiting on more information. I am thinking the 5.0 is my best bet anyway because of the way its available. I really dont have much of a choice in a reg cab short bed. I am hoping it at least does as well as the 4.63v. Ford is killing me not releasing information and I wonder what the penalty is for a 4x4.
I suppose if they have good news for us they dont want to kill the sales of the 2010 trucks but who knows at this point.
Does anybody know where I can find the weight of the new trucks in each configuration? I am trying to get some feel for what a reg cab short bed 4x4 weighs compared to the super cab 4x2. I know that is what was tested down in texas with the 5 liter and I think I remember them saying it had 3.31 gears? I am thinking with 3.73 gears in the 4x4 reg cab the 5.0 should be all I would ever need. I know this cab configuration is an odd ball for most people and its so hard to get information. Everybody buys a crew cab but I just dont need anything like that. I am starved for information and grasping at straws.
I suppose if they have good news for us they dont want to kill the sales of the 2010 trucks but who knows at this point.
Does anybody know where I can find the weight of the new trucks in each configuration? I am trying to get some feel for what a reg cab short bed 4x4 weighs compared to the super cab 4x2. I know that is what was tested down in texas with the 5 liter and I think I remember them saying it had 3.31 gears? I am thinking with 3.73 gears in the 4x4 reg cab the 5.0 should be all I would ever need. I know this cab configuration is an odd ball for most people and its so hard to get information. Everybody buys a crew cab but I just dont need anything like that. I am starved for information and grasping at straws.
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All specs (but mpg) are here. http://media.ford.com/images/10031/2...Tech_Specs.pdf
I guess its best to assume that 8K is the tow rating even with a slightly lower gear set.
#9
You are welcome. Take a look at the towing page again
On that page it shows 5.0 with the regular cab & heavy duty payload package being able to tow 10K and it shows the 4x4 regular cab with hd package being able to tow 9700 lbs. It also shows 9400 lbs with the supercab. Looks like no matter what model you get, if you want the 5.0 and 3.73 you have to get the Heavy duty payload package
On that page it shows 5.0 with the regular cab & heavy duty payload package being able to tow 10K and it shows the 4x4 regular cab with hd package being able to tow 9700 lbs. It also shows 9400 lbs with the supercab. Looks like no matter what model you get, if you want the 5.0 and 3.73 you have to get the Heavy duty payload package
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#10
You are welcome. Take a look at the towing page again
On that page it shows 5.0 with the regular cab & heavy duty payload package being able to tow 10K and it shows the 4x4 regular cab with hd package being able to tow 9700 lbs. It also shows 9400 lbs with the supercab. Looks like no matter what model you get, if you want the 5.0 and 3.73 you have to get the Heavy duty payload package
On that page it shows 5.0 with the regular cab & heavy duty payload package being able to tow 10K and it shows the 4x4 regular cab with hd package being able to tow 9700 lbs. It also shows 9400 lbs with the supercab. Looks like no matter what model you get, if you want the 5.0 and 3.73 you have to get the Heavy duty payload package
I think what you are looking at is the reg cab long bed or 146 inch WB.
This kind of early on speculation just kills me.
#11
I should have been more specific. Look at the 126 inch wheel base. Reg cab short bed in a 4x4 with the 5.0. It doesnt even show a rating for the 3.73 but the build and price let me put it in. I would assume they would come with those gears but you know what they say about assuming.
I think what you are looking at is the reg cab long bed or 146 inch WB.
This kind of early on speculation just kills me.
I think what you are looking at is the reg cab long bed or 146 inch WB.
This kind of early on speculation just kills me.
#12
They dont show a tow rating for this configuration.
#13
I should have been more specific. Look at the 126 inch wheel base. Reg cab short bed in a 4x4 with the 5.0. It doesnt even show a rating for the 3.73 but the build and price let me put it in. I would assume they would come with those gears but you know what they say about assuming.
I think what you are looking at is the reg cab long bed or 146 inch WB.
This kind of early on speculation just kills me.
I think what you are looking at is the reg cab long bed or 146 inch WB.
This kind of early on speculation just kills me.
For the regular cab (2wd) with 126"WB- with the 5.0 the standard axle is 3.31. The only optional axle is the 3.55 Limited Slip
Regular cab 4x4 with 126" wb, and the 5.0 engine, the standard axle is 3.55, optional axles are 3.55 and 3.73 LS. So we know that the axle is available, as you said we just don't know the rating. From what I have read the max tow with the 5.0 is 10k and that is what the towing guide says for the 145" wb 5.0. So we have to assume that IF the 126" wb and 5.0 offers a 3.73 then it would be the same 10k rating.
BTW, If you don't have the order guide, go to this thread and scroll down and you w will see where to download it.
http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums...de-out-for-11/
#14
Check here:
http://www.fordvehicles.com/trucks/f...cations/towing
5.0 126 wb 4x4 3.73 is 8000 lbs towing
http://www.fordvehicles.com/trucks/f...cations/towing
5.0 126 wb 4x4 3.73 is 8000 lbs towing
#15
Thank you JDF and Rambo! I would imagine the limiting factor on a bigger tow rating is the short wheel base. 8K is fine for what I do but I was just curious. REg cab 6.5 beds are just red headed step children in the truck world it seems. I seem to remember this exact truck in the 10 model was about the same with the 5.4. It may have been a touch higher but not much. It will suit me fine but I still wish they at least offered the EB engine as an option.