Looking at getting my first F150. Going to be a Fx4 5.0 or Eco (not sure yet).

Here's my opinion.

Is the Eco worth it over the 5.0?

Power wise. Throttle response. I think its worth it. You can get Max Tow with the Eco. More HP and TQ.

Gas Mileage?
Not so sure. Will it pay for itself in 5 years? I doubt it. Heard of guys getting 20-22 with the 5.0 on the highway. So maybe the Eco will do better than that.

Thats my opinion.

Both these engines are really in their first year. Eco is brand new and so is the 5.0 in the F150. 5.0 has been around but has been modified for the truck. So as far as "im not buying a first year engine" Thats kinda out the window since both are technically brand new.


Now my only real question. I have a garmin GPS. What will I gain by getting the NAV system in the truck? Will my garmin do just as good? Is it just a NAV system? Are their any other advantages?

 

Really? This has been beat to death in countless threads lately.......

 

A) (Politely) Try the search function. You'll find more than you care to know.

B) Both engines have been tried enough that by now, I doubt you'll see enough problems to worry about. Yes, there will be problems, and someone here on the board will likely blow it out of proportion so that all EcoBoosts or 5.0L are junk, but that's life.

C) If you tow, wait for the EcoBoost. It's simple. More power, more torque, better towing experience, and better mileage while doing it. I seriously doubt you'll see a 5.0L get the mileage of the EcoBoost, just because the Eco will have an easier time moving a 5,500 pound truck (Screw). Again, with a load, the Eco will most likely send the 5.0L packing.

D) Payload - especially when towing (added tongue weight) is the need for the Tow Max, and that demands the Eco or the 6.2L. If you tow a decent-sized trailer, you'll need the Tow Max... an Eco or 6.2L. I have mainly been a diesel driver for 12 years, and tow a 6,000 pound trailer. I'm okay with the current 5.4L in my 2010, but it isn't a diesel. I have run out of payload very quickly and put myself overweight. I need a Tow Max. Do you tow?

E) Ford's Navigation versus a Garmin? No contest. Toss the Garmin and get the Ford. You won't be sorry by a long stretch. Everyone is still trying to play catch-up in the car world. The Sirius Travel Link, Sync, etc... is absolutely the best. As a 50k+ miles a year driver, I wouldn't want anything else... and I have a 2 Garmins collecting dust.

 

Thank you.

I have read and read and read this forum for the past few months trying to gain as much knowledge as i can about the new trucks. I just wanted to type it down to make sure i was getting the information right. Believe me, I know where the search button is.

Its just nice to be able to relay my thoughts into text and have someone else read it to make sure i know what im talking about.

Thanks for the info on the Nav system.

 

No problem. I'm in the same boat. I have a 2010 Screw I need to return to the boss soon and I will need to get my own. I, too, am beating these engines to death. I have a travel trailer that demands the Tow Max Package, or go Super Duty. I don't care to get 14mpg with a 6.2L Super Duty. In the F-150, I'd love a 5.0L, but I'm afraid a Lariat or King Ranch loaded up will only give me about 1,300 pounds of payload based on what I've been seeing. I need that 1,700.

Keep watching. As the EcoBoosts trickle in, I'm sure we'll see some impressive thoughts. In my book, why not pay the $690 (approx. invoice) for the engine? What will you lose? Added economy with power? Yee haw!

 

You should both wait and test drive the EB and the 5.0 in the body style of your choice. I have test driven the EB in the fully loaded FX4 with every sticker option. The truck was immaculate and very well built. I will tell you that my test drive lasted 20 minutes and was on the highway and in the city. The EB was very quiet and smooth with no turbo lag or noise from under the hood and accelerated smoothly but it DID NOT have the kick I assumed it would. It did kick down when passing on the freeway and it did kick down in the city but it wasn't that impressive. My '05 Titan Crew Cab did better than the EB I test drove.

My new 5.0 has a lot more ooomph than the EB had. I am not saying the EB is a bad engine but it definitely isn't peppy enough to put in a fully loaded FX4. This is my perception of the EB I test drove, nothing more.

Weigh the differences in the two. Which one is going to accomplish your overall needs? Would a F250 better fit your towing needs?

Just a few things to look at.

The EB has been in the Taurus SHO for over a year.

 

I spent an hour in both, and although it doesn't have the off line punch as the V8 does it does pull all the way through the power band. My 04 F150 4X4 5.4 SCREW has more off the line then the EB and I would even say a bit more off the line then 5.0. That being said both of these new engines are light years ahead.

I spent 30 mins on the highway in the EB and got an average 24.1 MPG and in the city got 18 MPG flat with a combined time of 1 hour I got 20.9 MPG for both. That was very impressive for a 4x4 F150 SCREW, and this will be my choice for my new truck.

The 5.0 had the best sound HANDS down, it still was light years ahead of my F150 in MPG as well. Same course 30 mins highway 30 mins city and on the highway this was a 4X2 Platinum 22 was my best with 16 in the city. Not bad at all and a total of 18.1 combined. Both were on the same routes and one was at lunch and one at dinner.

The 5.0 was rev happy and pulled to red line and shifted smoothly, the Ecoboost had a different feel to it, off line seems lazy but when the RPM's were up it went and went well. You were speeding quickly in both. Since I use my truck for a DD and only pull a little pop up in the summer and spring either will do but for my money and gas I am getting Ecoboost.

 

Nice review. Do you know what rear axle the ecoboost truck had?

 

Nope, wish I did the 'model' that delivered the truck looked at me like when I asked her what rear it had in it.

None the less she was pleasent to look at, her name was 'Lynda'! I would have bought a Chevy from this woman, she was a turn table model that was helping out Ford to do the ecoboost demo drives locally.

 

Lucky ba$tard! I just had a couple of dudes from FoMoCo there when I had a test drive and they didn't know which rear end it had either.

 

Just called all 4 dealers within a 50 mile radius and everyone said it would be at least March before i could drive an Ecoboost. Hell, they didnt even have any 5.0 Fx4's on the lot. All lariats and xlt's.

 

See if you can sign up here http://www.drivef150ecoboost.com/?fm...4m6n0p20101006 and get them to bring one to you to drive.

 

That's because it takes a little time for the turbos to spool up.

 

it also might have had the 3.15 rear in it.

 

My test drive was pretty much a joke, so I can't really speak from personal experience yet, but I would imagine that two tiny little turbos would have virtually no turbo lag. My limited understanding of turbos is that a bigger turbo (especially a single turbo), will produce more turbo lag than smaller turbos, especially twins. I've always assumed this is the reason Ford chose two small turbos instead of one larger turbo like most diesel applications, up until the recent models anyway.

So far, the general consensus from longer test drives is that turbo lag is virtually non-existent. Are you basing your comment on an actual extended test drive or on experience with other turbo vehicles (or, even worse, rumor)?