Give me the quick and dirty on the new 20111 engines... from the owners
#17
If you are going to tow, don't get the Raptor or the Harley. They aren't optimized for that.
Betcha it's not your dad that wants a Raptor - I betcha that it's YOU..........
With the gas prices, especially in Canada, he will shoot himself if he gets a 6.2 for a daily driver. The 5.0 or EB is a much better choice.
Betcha it's not your dad that wants a Raptor - I betcha that it's YOU..........
With the gas prices, especially in Canada, he will shoot himself if he gets a 6.2 for a daily driver. The 5.0 or EB is a much better choice.
For his snowmobile trailer, it should be no issue with a Raptor Supercrew. My vote is for the Raptor, but I'm biased
#20
8000lbs for the Supercrew, not far off the 5.0 ratings. Obviously less than the 11K rating for the 6.2 or Ecoboost with Max tow, but still enough for most jobs. The Supercab Raptor has a 6000lb rating and a lot of the guys have had no problem towing a snowmobile trailer etc.
The Raptor's only limitation is the "soft" suspension with the Fox shocks. Otherwise it's the same truck and 6.2 motor.
IMHO, once you test drive a 6.2 F150, you will want it on the spot. I loved the Ecoboost motor, but the 6.2 pulls much harder up top and the sound really can't be beat, even with the stock exhaust. One of Ford's best sounding engines in a long time.
The Raptor's only limitation is the "soft" suspension with the Fox shocks. Otherwise it's the same truck and 6.2 motor.
IMHO, once you test drive a 6.2 F150, you will want it on the spot. I loved the Ecoboost motor, but the 6.2 pulls much harder up top and the sound really can't be beat, even with the stock exhaust. One of Ford's best sounding engines in a long time.
#21
For me, my preference for these new engines:
3.5L V6
5.0L V8
3.7L V6
6.2L V8
25 mpg is pretty damn good for a 4WD V6.
#22
The Raptor's suspension is completely different from the other trucks, above and beyond the shocks...that's not the only difference. No comparison between the two.
#23
Yeah but who would want to buy a truck after listening to its idle and driving it for a few miles? I'm sure once you see that fuel bill you'll start to realize how bad 12 mpg is. I sure as hell don't want to change 16 spark plugs, either.
For me, my preference for these new engines:
3.5L V6
5.0L V8
3.7L V6
6.2L V8
25 mpg is pretty damn good for a 4WD V6.
For me, my preference for these new engines:
3.5L V6
5.0L V8
3.7L V6
6.2L V8
25 mpg is pretty damn good for a 4WD V6.
#24
If your dad is all about lifts and the look of such, then the Raptor is not for him. You wont be lifting that truck.
The Raptor's suspension is completely different from the other trucks, above and beyond the shocks...that's not the only difference. No comparison between the two.
The Raptor's suspension is completely different from the other trucks, above and beyond the shocks...that's not the only difference. No comparison between the two.
Yes, I'm fully aware that the other components of the suspension are different on the Raptor. Maybe you missed I own one
#25
Yeah but who would want to buy a truck after listening to its idle and driving it for a few miles? I'm sure once you see that fuel bill you'll start to realize how bad 12 mpg is. I sure as hell don't want to change 16 spark plugs, either.
For me, my preference for these new engines:
3.5L V6
5.0L V8
3.7L V6
6.2L V8
25 mpg is pretty damn good for a 4WD V6.
For me, my preference for these new engines:
3.5L V6
5.0L V8
3.7L V6
6.2L V8
25 mpg is pretty damn good for a 4WD V6.
The spark plugs aren't too bad, nothing worse than the 97-2003 5.4, especially on the Lightnings which were almost impossible to get to the back 2.
As for gas mileage, these are trucks, not a Prius. Does my Raptor get worse mileage than the Ecoboost, sure, I knew that when I bought it instead of a FX4 with the Ecoboost. We know we aren't buying a 40mpg econo car.
The 5.0 is a great base motor, but once you drive the Ecoboost or 6.2, you won't want to go back to the 5.0.
#26
Yes, I did miss that...but guess I misread your post that I quoted...you made it sound like you were saying the only difference was the shocks. My bad.
#27
#29
14/20 for 4X4 with 3.73.
If it was 16/25, it would have been a no brainer to buy the Ecoboost. They wouldn't be able to keep them in stock for a truck that towed 11K lbs while getting 25mpg unloaded.
If it was 16/25, it would have been a no brainer to buy the Ecoboost. They wouldn't be able to keep them in stock for a truck that towed 11K lbs while getting 25mpg unloaded.