http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...KeyField=12409

I bet they come out with something similar for the f150. The warranty thing is not that big of a deal to me because I have a great dealer in my town that will work with you on mods even on the ecoboost. I just think that it will be a whole lot safer to make 700hp on the 5.0 than it will the ecoboost, plus in order to make big power with the ecoboost your going to have to put an exhaust on it and it just does not sound good at all.

 

I'm not sure if the 5.0's internals are forged like the EB's? If not, the EB might be safer wih more power.

 

The only changes from the 5.0 mustang to the 5.0 f150 are heads(possibly just thicker head gasket) and exhaust manifolds instead of headers. The f150 5.0's lower compression should make it respond to forced induction better than the mustang, a blower on the 5.0 btw more than matches the ecoboost with an exhaust. If you are looking at spending the money to make big power the 5.0 is a better choice than the ecoboost. There are mustang guys running over 700hp on stock internals and not having problems, the biggest roadblock for the sho guys seems to be the fuel system, from what I have read the DI pump is only good to about 450hp.

 

^ of course the 5.0 will ultimately make more power. I personally don't know anybody who's willing to dump so much $$ into a truck. All that work would be better suited for cars. I'm just trying to state the EB will make more power with less $$.

 

I think that statement is perfectly reasonable and correct up until 500-600hp, after that I think the 5.0 starts to pass the ecoboost in performance/$. I know a lot of people that would rather mod a truck than a car, hell I am one of them. I can't wait to have a 5.0 f-150, take it to the track and run 11's and then on the way home stop at HD and load up some lumber or concrete for my project that weekend.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdcOqkpKmug

Mustang making over 500hp N/A, using the first 4 mods most truck users do (intake,exhaust,tune,headers,), plus ported heads and new cams. Not saying the truck motor will make that much power with those mods because our drive line is less efficient, but I would expect it to be not far behind.

 

Well we are way off topic now.

 

how many people out there make a gasoline truck over 500hp and drive it everyday and use it for what a truck is for. For most people an EB will give you the best of both worlds. Fuel efficiency for everyday driving, and the ability to tow about anything a normal guy would need to tow.

I am all for big numbers but in the truck world, I would think high hp gas trucks are a pretty small niche and guys that need to tow a lot of really heavy loads are naturally going diesels.

All in all pretty excited about all the engine options.

 

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Check out Evolution Performance's Mustangs. They are setting world records left and right. They had the first Mustang GT naturally aspirated in the 10's, now 4V Mustangs in the 8's, etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c62zJ-4Bo48
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siqUezuWSyE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2z8exW96l8

 

Yeah Evolution is pretty awesome, my salesman is a customer of their...http://www.youtube.com/user/beefcakescobra#p/u

But anyways back to trucks. I sold my Mustang so lets stop making me think about it.

 

Another reason there are so many V6s sold is because the dealers and ford are advertising them much harder than the 5.0. And the 6.2 is only available in the top 3 trim levels.

 

Advertising or not, the dealers are stocking WAY more 5.0's, the EB's could sell better if they ordered them the same.



DAMN, SVT, that notch is BAD ***!!!!! my favorite fox body stang to-date.

 

I wouldn't.
The Mustang is making about 50 more HP to start with. I doubt you'll see 500hp from a 5.0 F150 without forced induction and that will run ya about $4K-$6K for a superchager or a turbo kit. I bet the mods you listed are over $3K. The Ecoboost would be way easier (cheaper)to reach 500 HP.It would probably take a free flowing exhaust,a tune,more boost,more fuel, either more octane or alcohol injection and possibly bigger turbos.But it's still it would be cheaper to make truck that's already forced induction reach 500HP.
I've been playing around with Grand National V6 turbos for 23 years and forced induction engines respond way better to simple bolt ons (like exhaust, intakes, tunes) than N/A engines. My GN 231 V6 makes 500 HP with alky injection and 26 psi of boost.

Each psi of boost can = anywhere from 10-15 hp depending on temperature, humidity, and several other variables. It's much cheaper to make HP from an engine that is already forced induction. Not that it can't be done from a N/A engine, but it's going to cost an arm and a leg. With a forced induction engine it's just a matter of upgrading whatever it takes to safely run more boost.

 

We keep our fleet trucks for 7-10 years and 300k plus. So we are choosing the 5L for fewer gadgets and parts to break and repair. I think the twin turbo will require more repairs in 300k than a straight forward v8...

 

Our dealer only has 4 more 5.0s coming in this summer, and mabye 20 more EB. As of right now, he has three 5.0s and 6 EBs....

 

^ wow, way oposite in so Cal. The dealers have over 2/3's 5.0's in stock vs. EB or 6.2L. Impossible to find a decent loaded EB FX4.