Tow/Haul mode killing my rear tires?
#16
I dont know what some of you guys are saying... but when I had the GY SR-A on my truck, the thing felt like a water truck. Most horrendous truck tire I have ever had.
6700miles and half gone sounds a little much... but I cant say it enough, the SR-A's really are that bad. I cant beleive they are even considered a truck tire.
One of the reasons factory vehicles come with tires this soft is to capture the guy taking the test drive with the allure of a super plush ride. If you dont beleive me, push on the tire sippets with your thumb and see how much they flex. Tell me that a 6000lb vehicle at highway speeds or turning a corner for that matter isn't going to chew those tires up quick.
6700miles and half gone sounds a little much... but I cant say it enough, the SR-A's really are that bad. I cant beleive they are even considered a truck tire.
One of the reasons factory vehicles come with tires this soft is to capture the guy taking the test drive with the allure of a super plush ride. If you dont beleive me, push on the tire sippets with your thumb and see how much they flex. Tell me that a 6000lb vehicle at highway speeds or turning a corner for that matter isn't going to chew those tires up quick.
#17
I have 6700 miles on my 2011 F150 Supercrew Long box. My right rear tire is more than half used up and the left rear is almost to the same level. I have towed a travel trailer about 600 miles out of the 6700 and was wondering if I am using up the tires in the rear faster because they are being worn when you are accelerating as well as when your engine is braking you on downhills.
I have an appointment Friday for an alignment, and they said that if the alignment is off they will also replace the tires that were damaged due to the misalignment. Is it possible they are going to find an alignment issue with the rear axle that is causing this excessive wear? Also, is it more likely that the really soft Goodyear SR-A tires that were going to do this regardless?
Also, don't even bother mentioning burnouts and such, I have not done even one with this truck, as well as not having ever disabled the traction control which prevents wheel spin anyways no?
I have an appointment Friday for an alignment, and they said that if the alignment is off they will also replace the tires that were damaged due to the misalignment. Is it possible they are going to find an alignment issue with the rear axle that is causing this excessive wear? Also, is it more likely that the really soft Goodyear SR-A tires that were going to do this regardless?
Also, don't even bother mentioning burnouts and such, I have not done even one with this truck, as well as not having ever disabled the traction control which prevents wheel spin anyways no?
#18
while i will say that something else is going on here, because it is not just the tires - i can say that the goodyears that come on that truck are absolutely awful. i love goodyear's MT/R series as well as their Duratracs - but the GS-A's are absolutely awful awful tires. i had mine on for 15,000 miles and they were chunking and peeling and wearing very quickly
Last edited by marshal; 07-28-2011 at 12:44 PM.
#19
I don't wonder if I chewed them up last Thursday in the 102 degree scorcher we had as I was trailering to the campground. The combination of extreme road temps coupled with the excess duty cycle of the tow/haul may have been enough to exceed the temperature at which the tire rubber is stable?
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#22
Sorry, I should have added "...when not towing."
Of course tire pressure is critical when the truck is loaded heavier than the 'everyday' weight, and underinflation at any time can cause handling and wear problems. What I was specifically addressing was your previous comment...
...which is incorrect. The max load carrying capacity of any tire is presumed to be at, or very near, maximum inflation pressure as it is critical to structural integrity. That includes, as you rightly stated, sidewall stiffness, but also includes the ability of the tire to carry the load without overheating. Underinflation will cause the tire to overheat, meaning that max load WILL require inflation pressure beyond the everyday-driving rating (presuming the tire is mounted on a rim that falls within the mfgs recommended widths for the tire). The 41 PSI recommendation for towing in my owners manual takes into account heating while in use. It's allowing for the 30 or 40 deg F of heating that will occur, leaving the three extra psi as a hedge against heat-related pressure increases so the tires do not exceed the 44 psi max inflation rating.
Brad
Of course tire pressure is critical when the truck is loaded heavier than the 'everyday' weight, and underinflation at any time can cause handling and wear problems. What I was specifically addressing was your previous comment...
...which is incorrect. The max load carrying capacity of any tire is presumed to be at, or very near, maximum inflation pressure as it is critical to structural integrity. That includes, as you rightly stated, sidewall stiffness, but also includes the ability of the tire to carry the load without overheating. Underinflation will cause the tire to overheat, meaning that max load WILL require inflation pressure beyond the everyday-driving rating (presuming the tire is mounted on a rim that falls within the mfgs recommended widths for the tire). The 41 PSI recommendation for towing in my owners manual takes into account heating while in use. It's allowing for the 30 or 40 deg F of heating that will occur, leaving the three extra psi as a hedge against heat-related pressure increases so the tires do not exceed the 44 psi max inflation rating.
Brad
Last edited by Brad Johnson; 07-28-2011 at 11:50 AM.
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...which is incorrect. The max load carrying capacity of any tire is presumed to be at, or very near, maximum inflation pressure as it is critical to structural integrity. That includes, as you rightly stated, sidewall stiffness, but also includes the ability of the tire to carry the load without overheating. Underinflation will cause the tire to overheat, meaning that max load WILL require inflation pressure beyond the everyday-driving rating (presuming the tire is mounted on a rim that falls within the mfgs recommended widths for the tire). The 41 PSI recommendation for towing in my owners manual takes into account heating while in use. It's allowing for the 30 or 40 deg F of heating that will occur, leaving the three extra psi as a hedge against heat-related pressure increases so the tires do not exceed the 44 psi max inflation rating.
Brad
Brad
While the tire may have a higher maximum pressure, it's maximum load carrying ability is reached at 35, unless it is an XL tire. Then it is 41.
http://www.spiriteddrives.com/tire-specs-explained/
#25
Then I stand corrected on load rating. But I still maintain that a tire loaded to at or near its maximum will run cooler, thus wear better, than a tire inflated to the minimum pressure needed to "meet" the load rating criteria. Safer, too, as the sidewall flex will be minimized and help the tire resist side-loading failures better.
Brad
Brad
#26
Then I stand corrected on load rating. But I still maintain that a tire loaded to at or near its maximum will run cooler, thus wear better, than a tire inflated to the minimum pressure needed to "meet" the load rating criteria. Safer, too, as the sidewall flex will be minimized and help the tire resist side-loading failures better.
Brad
Brad
#27
As for pulling a trailer on snow-covered roads? No. Friggin. Way. Unless someone's life depends on it, that trailer will just have to stay home until the road clears.
Sidewall flex, however, is an issue. A big one. People have no clue how much side loading there is on a tire when towing a heavy load. Given a heavy trailer, a modestly low tire, and a hard turn & brake, and you can roll a tire right off the bead with relative ease, or cause an inevitable failure (like a split or cut) to happen sooner, and usually at the worst possible moment. Having a back tire let go during a turn while towing a trailer with a couple thou tongue weight and loaded to 15 or 20k can be... exciting.
Brad
Last edited by Brad Johnson; 07-29-2011 at 03:06 PM.