2014 F150 worth the wait?
#16
Bluejay, real world mileage doesn't count toward C.A.F.E., only the EPA mileage. So if the EPA rating for one engine is better than the other, even though anecdotal evidence might suggest neither one is better, if Ford can sell more of the engine with the better EPA measurement that helps them with CAFE.
LOL, no, I don't get the sticker mileage on my F150 with EB, but I never did on my 5.4L ones either.
LOL, no, I don't get the sticker mileage on my F150 with EB, but I never did on my 5.4L ones either.
#17
Bluejay, real world mileage doesn't count toward C.A.F.E., only the EPA mileage. So if the EPA rating for one engine is better than the other, even though anecdotal evidence might suggest neither one is better, if Ford can sell more of the engine with the better EPA measurement that helps them with CAFE.
LOL, no, I don't get the sticker mileage on my F150 with EB, but I never did on my 5.4L ones either.
LOL, no, I don't get the sticker mileage on my F150 with EB, but I never did on my 5.4L ones either.
Now, I did not buy the 5.0 expecting great gas mileage, but, it's there and I am certainly enjoying it as the price goes up.
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#18
http://www.trucktrend.com/roadtests/...ctl-hHgqwfT4NC
I'm impressed with the EcoBoost power, and fuel economy. Like they say, if I drive by the local dealer I just might pull the trigger.
http://www.trucktrend.com/roadtests/...son/index.html
I'm impressed with the EcoBoost power, and fuel economy. Like they say, if I drive by the local dealer I just might pull the trigger.
http://www.trucktrend.com/roadtests/...son/index.html
Last edited by DallasSuperCru; 03-11-2012 at 01:33 PM.
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http://www.trucktrend.com/roadtests/...ctl-hHgqwfT4NC
I'm impressed with the EcoBoost power, and fuel economy. Like they say, if I drive by the local dealer I just might pull the trigger.
http://www.trucktrend.com/roadtests/...son/index.html
I'm impressed with the EcoBoost power, and fuel economy. Like they say, if I drive by the local dealer I just might pull the trigger.
http://www.trucktrend.com/roadtests/...son/index.html
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#22
Are any members on here getting the mpg advertised for the EB. The majority I have seen post are posting lower numbers than I am getting with my 5.0. My boss has an EB, and I get better mileage than he does, as well. If he did not have the 4X4 I suspect we would be pretty much the same. My point is, I hear all this rhetoric about the great mileage of an EB and so far, it has been mostly on the sticker. Just an observation, so any refuters, keep it civil.
My 2011 FX2 EB w/ 20's and 3.55LSD had a 16/22 mpg sticker on the window when I picked it up. During the summer when gas is a bit better, I got 17 driving around town all the time and 21.5 to as high as 22.8 on the highway at 70-74mph. I have put over 15k miles on mine since buying it in July and have done MANY long distance trips and plenty of city driving as well. Over the winter and months when gas is known to be of lesser quality, I consistently still got right at 16 in city and 21 on the freeway over the same trips that I take during the summer for work.
I recently met up with a group of F-150 owners here in the Austin area and 6 of the 8 trucks there were EB. Every single one of them, including the 5.0 owners, were getting the advertised mileage and falling right into the range of the sticker and EPA ratings.
I do think it's very unfortunate that some are having problems. I gotta wonder sometimes though if it is a driver issue in some cases. I have personally driven 11 EB trucks myself as I always get one for a rental when I have to fly out of town and every single one of them got 20+ on the highway and around 16-17 city. I of course can't speak to what anyone else is doing with their trucks, but at the same time I think it's pretty funny those that blame Ford for this or expect Ford to do something about it. Now granted if you are getting 13 or 14 in a stock truck then sure, something is wrong. But the EPA sets all of this and Ford has no control or say so in that matter.
A turbo motor is a little trickier to drive and get good mileage out of and I seriously doubt the EPA considers those that don't understand that when they rate these trucks
I use the Torque app on my Android phone to monitor all the gauges I can and use Boost as the primary gauge. If I really want to get good mileage, I just make sure that it stays in Vaccuum and avoid boost as much as I can. This is a rare thing for me to do, but it does net a very nice mileage number.
#23
I get 16 and almost 20 on HWY which is what is advertised. Drving styles have a lot to do with. I ride behind idiots that take 5mins to get up to speed and roll 5-10 under the limit. They probably get better mpg wthen I do but time is money IMO.
#24
My current 5.4(77K miles) is about 12 City and 16 Hwy on a good day. I've had the spark plugs changed, always ontime maintenance, only use top tier gas ex. Shell, and do not have a lead foot.
#25
Just like anything on any vehicle forum, you are going to hear more of the complaints than you will the praises. For every one person that praises or posts something positive, there will be 20 that are negative. I know you have been around long enough to know that though.
My 2011 FX2 EB w/ 20's and 3.55LSD had a 16/22 mpg sticker on the window when I picked it up. During the summer when gas is a bit better, I got 17 driving around town all the time and 21.5 to as high as 22.8 on the highway at 70-74mph. I have put over 15k miles on mine since buying it in July and have done MANY long distance trips and plenty of city driving as well. Over the winter and months when gas is known to be of lesser quality, I consistently still got right at 16 in city and 21 on the freeway over the same trips that I take during the summer for work.
I recently met up with a group of F-150 owners here in the Austin area and 6 of the 8 trucks there were EB. Every single one of them, including the 5.0 owners, were getting the advertised mileage and falling right into the range of the sticker and EPA ratings.
I do think it's very unfortunate that some are having problems. I gotta wonder sometimes though if it is a driver issue in some cases. I have personally driven 11 EB trucks myself as I always get one for a rental when I have to fly out of town and every single one of them got 20+ on the highway and around 16-17 city. I of course can't speak to what anyone else is doing with their trucks, but at the same time I think it's pretty funny those that blame Ford for this or expect Ford to do something about it. Now granted if you are getting 13 or 14 in a stock truck then sure, something is wrong. But the EPA sets all of this and Ford has no control or say so in that matter.
A turbo motor is a little trickier to drive and get good mileage out of and I seriously doubt the EPA considers those that don't understand that when they rate these trucks
I use the Torque app on my Android phone to monitor all the gauges I can and use Boost as the primary gauge. If I really want to get good mileage, I just make sure that it stays in Vaccuum and avoid boost as much as I can. This is a rare thing for me to do, but it does net a very nice mileage number.
My 2011 FX2 EB w/ 20's and 3.55LSD had a 16/22 mpg sticker on the window when I picked it up. During the summer when gas is a bit better, I got 17 driving around town all the time and 21.5 to as high as 22.8 on the highway at 70-74mph. I have put over 15k miles on mine since buying it in July and have done MANY long distance trips and plenty of city driving as well. Over the winter and months when gas is known to be of lesser quality, I consistently still got right at 16 in city and 21 on the freeway over the same trips that I take during the summer for work.
I recently met up with a group of F-150 owners here in the Austin area and 6 of the 8 trucks there were EB. Every single one of them, including the 5.0 owners, were getting the advertised mileage and falling right into the range of the sticker and EPA ratings.
I do think it's very unfortunate that some are having problems. I gotta wonder sometimes though if it is a driver issue in some cases. I have personally driven 11 EB trucks myself as I always get one for a rental when I have to fly out of town and every single one of them got 20+ on the highway and around 16-17 city. I of course can't speak to what anyone else is doing with their trucks, but at the same time I think it's pretty funny those that blame Ford for this or expect Ford to do something about it. Now granted if you are getting 13 or 14 in a stock truck then sure, something is wrong. But the EPA sets all of this and Ford has no control or say so in that matter.
A turbo motor is a little trickier to drive and get good mileage out of and I seriously doubt the EPA considers those that don't understand that when they rate these trucks
I use the Torque app on my Android phone to monitor all the gauges I can and use Boost as the primary gauge. If I really want to get good mileage, I just make sure that it stays in Vaccuum and avoid boost as much as I can. This is a rare thing for me to do, but it does net a very nice mileage number.
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#26
I got over 19 on the highway with my 2005, running 75-80. That was before I modded it and befroe ethanol. I was getting about 16 mixed driving when I sold it.
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#27
I think terrain and local traffic conditions have a lot to do with the mileage you can expect. When I hit flat terrain in Florida without winds, I can hit the EPA numbers with my truck, even the old 5.4L measured up under those conditions.
You are absolutely right about all the hype - Ford did a great job marketing the EB, maybe so much so that they have alienated some people who believed all of it.
If the max tow was available in the 5.0, I definitely would have considered it.
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I get a good 3 MPG or so with my EB over any of the previous 5.4Ls I have owned. On the last highway trip I was knocked down 19+ with a Platinum 4x4 full of gear and 3 guys up and down Southern Missouri hills. I have done that same trip in my KR and never got much more than mid-15s. The EB makes a ton more power than the 5.4L and gets much better mileage.
Something to consider in the 5.0 and EB mileage claims is the gear ratios the tests were done with. The 4x2 EB is based on 3.15 gears and the 5.0 is based on 3.31s. Most of the 4x2s I have seen on here are bought with 3.55s.
When you jump to 4x4s the EB comes with a 3.31 and the 5.0 comes with 3.55s. Most buyers jump up to the 3.73s. In both cases the 5.0 is being bought with gears closer to the setup used to calculate the mileage numbers.
Here is a little info on how the .gov determines the mileage numbers. If you drive like they do you should be able to get close to the same mileage.
EPA Fuel Economy
Test Schedules
General test
Something to consider in the 5.0 and EB mileage claims is the gear ratios the tests were done with. The 4x2 EB is based on 3.15 gears and the 5.0 is based on 3.31s. Most of the 4x2s I have seen on here are bought with 3.55s.
When you jump to 4x4s the EB comes with a 3.31 and the 5.0 comes with 3.55s. Most buyers jump up to the 3.73s. In both cases the 5.0 is being bought with gears closer to the setup used to calculate the mileage numbers.
Here is a little info on how the .gov determines the mileage numbers. If you drive like they do you should be able to get close to the same mileage.
EPA Fuel Economy
Test Schedules
General test