2014 F150 worth the wait?
#31
Exactly, your EPA mileage numbers are based on 3.31s. So there is a difference of .24. The guys with 4x4 and 3.73s have a difference of .42. That's almost twice the difference between the rated gear set and what they have.
My truck is about as heavy as a F-150 will be and has 3.55s. I have a .24 difference in gear set but a ton more weight. If I hold the speeds to 68-70 or so on a flat road I will get 20+. Considering the difference in gears and weight that seems about right.
My truck is about as heavy as a F-150 will be and has 3.55s. I have a .24 difference in gear set but a ton more weight. If I hold the speeds to 68-70 or so on a flat road I will get 20+. Considering the difference in gears and weight that seems about right.
#32
Exactly, your EPA mileage numbers are based on 3.31s. So there is a difference of .24. The guys with 4x4 and 3.73s have a difference of .42. That's almost twice the difference between the rated gear set and what they have.
My truck is about as heavy as a F-150 will be and has 3.55s. I have a .24 difference in gear set but a ton more weight. If I hold the speeds to 68-70 or so on a flat road I will get 20+. Considering the difference in gears and weight that seems about right.
My truck is about as heavy as a F-150 will be and has 3.55s. I have a .24 difference in gear set but a ton more weight. If I hold the speeds to 68-70 or so on a flat road I will get 20+. Considering the difference in gears and weight that seems about right.
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#33
I understand what you are saying and knew that. My point I was trying to make is that many buyers are getting about 17 to 18 and bought the vehicle thinking they would get the 22 Ford was advertising. They don't do the research and are not as informed as some of us and they end up disappointed.
To the OP, buy a truck when you need one. I would only hold out for a year or so if I know what is coming will be much better. I did this with my current truck. I knew the '11s would have new motors and I held of till they were released. I even went so far as to stretch out how long I could get out of a set of tires. But I knew when the new model was coming and when I could get it. What you're talking about is waiting at least a year or more to find out what is coming then another year or so to get it. For me that's a long time to wait on a maybe.
#34
I understand what you are saying and knew that. My point I was trying to make is that many buyers are getting about 17 to 18 and bought the vehicle thinking they would get the 22 Ford was advertising. They don't do the research and are not as informed as some of us and they end up disappointed.
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#37
May be this is why the next gen. will have better milage:
"Ward's Auto reported that Ford’s next-generation F-Series full-size pickup truck, code-named P552, will feature extensive use of aluminum body panels including doors and fenders. This will be a first for the F-Series as in the current model, only the hood is crafted from the lightweight material."
"Doug Scott, the Detroit company's truck marketing manager told the news site that the Blue Oval is always looking for ways to improve its vehicles.
“We know our customers, and it’s all about the truck being a tool and they want it to be more productive and more efficient,” said Scott. “So we have to keep moving the needle if we want to be king of hill. We’re always looking at all the ways of doing that going forward and we have a great strategy.”
Ford's produce chief Derrick Kuzak has previously said that the company plans to shed up to 700 lbs. (318 kg) per model before 2019.
"Ward's Auto reported that Ford’s next-generation F-Series full-size pickup truck, code-named P552, will feature extensive use of aluminum body panels including doors and fenders. This will be a first for the F-Series as in the current model, only the hood is crafted from the lightweight material."
"Doug Scott, the Detroit company's truck marketing manager told the news site that the Blue Oval is always looking for ways to improve its vehicles.
“We know our customers, and it’s all about the truck being a tool and they want it to be more productive and more efficient,” said Scott. “So we have to keep moving the needle if we want to be king of hill. We’re always looking at all the ways of doing that going forward and we have a great strategy.”
Ford's produce chief Derrick Kuzak has previously said that the company plans to shed up to 700 lbs. (318 kg) per model before 2019.
#39
Its like going to applebees for the 2 for $20 and expecting prime rib to be one of the options. Know what you are buying and dont be fooled by ads
Last edited by nards444; 03-15-2012 at 06:55 AM.
#40
My window sticker says "City MPG 15 Expected range for most drivers 12 to 18 MPG", so I'm in range there. It also says "Highway MPG 21 Expected range for most drivers 17 to 25 MPG Your actual mileage will vary depending on how you drive and maintain your vehicle" Again, I am in the range. Most ecoboost MPG numbers, even most of the so-called bad ones are within the ranges cited. But it is the 22 MPG number that gets hyped, gets the attention and is what everyone believes they should get. Almost nobody reads the fine print or expects to be lower than the bolded numbers.
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#43
I understand all that. My point is, I think many have accepted it as real, a nice brainwashing. I am getting better than the sticker numbers with my engine and have noticed that most of the 5.0 owners posting have gotten as good or better than the EB. Maybe Ford knows there is more potential with the EB, I don't know. Maybe it just isn't living up to it's hype in that area, but my point is, people are buying it expecting to get exceptional mpg, and it's just not there. My boss got 14 in a headwind on a 6 hour interstate drive. Coming back with a tailwind, 18. I guarantee, my 5.0 would beat the crap out of that. His comment, "oh well, I love the truck anyway even though the mileage is no better than my Tundra got."
Now, I did not buy the 5.0 expecting great gas mileage, but, it's there and I am certainly enjoying it as the price goes up.
Now, I did not buy the 5.0 expecting great gas mileage, but, it's there and I am certainly enjoying it as the price goes up.
Last edited by Luca1500; 03-15-2012 at 03:16 PM. Reason: to get along:)
#44
Hate to say it but it sounds like you do want a 5.0 vs 3.5EB debate.. so here is my little bit... 11 EB w/3.15 rear 18" wheels with 9500 on the odo. last 363.miles burned 20.3 gal in 12hrs 17 minutes of driving average speed 29.54 mph "id call that city driving".. average 17.8 mpg.....
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