2013 Ram
#16
Competition is good for the consumer, and I expect Ford to catch up quickly.
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My F250 gets 33+ MPG according to the gauge. This is from the time I fill it up, until I turn off the main road to the road I live on. Pretty good, eh? Until I tell you that is just 2 miles, through town, most of which is down hill. In real-life, mostly rural stop-and-go everyday driving, I get about 13.
See how not knowing the details can skew things?
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#21
It would go something like this...
"Hahahah! I clicked on that link, and almost died. I forgot how unbelievably ugly that dodge pickup is. Holy crap, what a joke. That bass mouthed chromed thing might even look worse than the Tundra. Wow. So ugly... no wonder chyrsler is in a world of hurt, even their pickup trucks are looking campy and sad."
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#23
The fugly interior has always kept me far enough away that I've lacked any interest. But a full refresh on the inside with these new engine / tranny options sure make the truck a little more appealing.
Ford seemed to be the first to re-do their trucks after the recession but the other makers get to learn from what Ford did right or not-so-right. I can see these being a huge hit.
Ford seemed to be the first to re-do their trucks after the recession but the other makers get to learn from what Ford did right or not-so-right. I can see these being a huge hit.
#24
After reading more about it I'm not that impressed. Outside of the air suspension, radiator slats and LED headlights it gets a big "so you copied Ford once again" from me. All of the other "new" things they brag about are already on my F-150 that I have been driving for a year now.
The 8 speed tranny is really more like a 6 speed from reading about it
Porsche called and said the active cooling slats are so 1987
LED headlights, cool on the first few Audis that had them, now so overdone
Power folding mirrors, Ford said 2005 wants its option back
Automatic wipers, already on my Ford
Electric steering, see above
4 wheel disc brakes, so 1999 F-150
Power slider with defrost, my Ford already has that button
6’4” bed on a crew cab, Ford gives you another 2”
Aluminum hood, Ford says welcome to 1997
Start/Stop sucks, it was a pain on every car I have driven with it
I could buy one for way less than dealer invoice; I have friends that own a Dodge dealership. Sorry guys, I’ll stick to buying a Ford.
The 8 speed tranny is really more like a 6 speed from reading about it
Porsche called and said the active cooling slats are so 1987
LED headlights, cool on the first few Audis that had them, now so overdone
Power folding mirrors, Ford said 2005 wants its option back
Automatic wipers, already on my Ford
Electric steering, see above
4 wheel disc brakes, so 1999 F-150
Power slider with defrost, my Ford already has that button
6’4” bed on a crew cab, Ford gives you another 2”
Aluminum hood, Ford says welcome to 1997
Start/Stop sucks, it was a pain on every car I have driven with it
I could buy one for way less than dealer invoice; I have friends that own a Dodge dealership. Sorry guys, I’ll stick to buying a Ford.
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chrysler turns out cheap crap with cheap materials. I would never put my family in one. Don't get me wrong they do have some decent looks on some of they're vehicles. But its what you can't see that matters. If you GAVE me one id drive it straight to ford and buy a truck that will last.
#27
It'll be interesting to see how many fuel consumption-conscious buyers switch sides and get their 8-speed V6 RAM trucks.
Meanwhile, I can tow more, haul more, AND get almost as good fuel economy from my F-150, and (hopefully) my F-150 won't disperse its transmission parts all over the ground like RAMs are known for.
And yeah, I've got an EcoBoost, but the 5.0 guys are still better off than V6 RAM owners
-John
Meanwhile, I can tow more, haul more, AND get almost as good fuel economy from my F-150, and (hopefully) my F-150 won't disperse its transmission parts all over the ground like RAMs are known for.
And yeah, I've got an EcoBoost, but the 5.0 guys are still better off than V6 RAM owners
-John
#29
After reading more about it I'm not that impressed. Outside of the air suspension, radiator slats and LED headlights it gets a big "so you copied Ford once again" from me. All of the other "new" things they brag about are already on my F-150 that I have been driving for a year now.
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chrysler turns out cheap crap with cheap materials. I would never put my family in one. Don't get me wrong they do have some decent looks on some of they're vehicles. But its what you can't see that matters. If you GAVE me one id drive it straight to ford and buy a truck that will last.
Last edited by Desert Dawg; 04-05-2012 at 02:53 PM.
#30
I thought about looking at a Dodge 2500 before I bought my Super Duty. As soon as I pulled the door handle, I knew it wasn't for me. The door handle felt flimsy and felt like it was going to come off in my hand. I think my 6 year old, extremely rambunctious, son would have ripped it off by now had I bought a Dodge.
I do like the looks of the current and new gen though (front end only).
I do like the looks of the current and new gen though (front end only).