Max Tow vs Heavy Duty Payload
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10-16-2012, 08:49 AM
GVWR = 7650 Curb weight = 5500ish... leaves 1900-2000lbs payload. Hitch will be a slider of some sort or a reese revolution. With the updated shocks and tires, my actual ratings are a bit higher, but our target is still the original ratings. Safety is first and foremost. 1200-1300 hitch weight and dry weight of 8000lbs is well within the limits of the truck.
To be clear, my frame is the same frame thickness as the heavy duty package, all that is different is the 7 lug axle, shocks, and extra leaf spring in the rear. The only reason the HDPP isn't offered on the Platinum's IMO is due to the 20 inch wheels, which at stock size tires you can only get Passenger car tires and 7 lug 20inch wheels are probably hard to come by. I had to do a plus size tire to grab the load range E 10 ply tires I want for towing and offroading. While I cannot exceed the door label in rating legally, I can update my truck based on the design of the HDPP truck and achieve the same results... just can't pull those higher weights "legally".
To be clear, my frame is the same frame thickness as the heavy duty package, all that is different is the 7 lug axle, shocks, and extra leaf spring in the rear. The only reason the HDPP isn't offered on the Platinum's IMO is due to the 20 inch wheels, which at stock size tires you can only get Passenger car tires and 7 lug 20inch wheels are probably hard to come by. I had to do a plus size tire to grab the load range E 10 ply tires I want for towing and offroading. While I cannot exceed the door label in rating legally, I can update my truck based on the design of the HDPP truck and achieve the same results... just can't pull those higher weights "legally".
I agree with what you're saying though. You can add to the suspension to make the truck handle better if needed.
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I don't want to get into the whole payload debate, but I think you are probably closer to your limit than you realize. The maximum payload available on an Eco Screw 145" is 1900lbs. That's for a the most stripped truck available in that configuration. Your Platinum is at the other end of the spectrum with with the highest curb weight due to options. Your available payload, for the truck as it left the factory, is on the door jamb sticker. Anything else you added to the truck since delivery will reduce it more.
I agree with what you're saying though. You can add to the suspension to make the truck handle better if needed.
I agree with what you're saying though. You can add to the suspension to make the truck handle better if needed.
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Thanks for the compliments guys!
When we pull into the campgrounds you wouldn't believe the looks we get. Most everybody completely stops what they are doing and looks at our rig with complete dismay. Many will stop by and ask how it pulls, looking at how the truck is equiped. Most don't believe that that little 3.5L V6 can pull it around so good.
When we pull into the campgrounds you wouldn't believe the looks we get. Most everybody completely stops what they are doing and looks at our rig with complete dismay. Many will stop by and ask how it pulls, looking at how the truck is equiped. Most don't believe that that little 3.5L V6 can pull it around so good.
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The bottomline here is legally Ford puts a sticker on the trucks based on the options provided at the time of assembly. However common sense dictates that the weight bearing components are the springs, shocks, tires, wheels, and axle. So it's very simple to update the weight ratings of the vehicle, it just can't be done legally. I still plan to tow at or very close to the original weight ratings, but I do plan to update the truck to be more stable... overkill is definitely a good thing in this department.
Just out of curiosity how much does your setup weigh Shadow Grey?
Just out of curiosity how much does your setup weigh Shadow Grey?
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The rear axle rating on Max tow trucks is 4050 lbs. The 6 lug alloy wheels have a max capacity of 2025 lbs each.
The rear axle rating on Heavy Duty payload trucks is 4800 lbs. The 7 lug alloy wheels have a max capacity of 2400 lbs each.
2012 F-150 ecoboost heavy duty payload and max tow package pulling a 2010 Outback 300BH loaded weight 8000 lbs.
The rear axle rating on Heavy Duty payload trucks is 4800 lbs. The 7 lug alloy wheels have a max capacity of 2400 lbs each.
2012 F-150 ecoboost heavy duty payload and max tow package pulling a 2010 Outback 300BH loaded weight 8000 lbs.
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The rear axle rating on Max tow trucks is 4050 lbs. The 6 lug alloy wheels have a max capacity of 2025 lbs each.
The rear axle rating on Heavy Duty payload trucks is 4800 lbs. The 7 lug alloy wheels have a max capacity of 2400 lbs each.
2012 F-150 ecoboost heavy duty payload and max tow package pulling a 2010 Outback 300BH loaded weight 8000 lbs.
The rear axle rating on Heavy Duty payload trucks is 4800 lbs. The 7 lug alloy wheels have a max capacity of 2400 lbs each.
2012 F-150 ecoboost heavy duty payload and max tow package pulling a 2010 Outback 300BH loaded weight 8000 lbs.
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I think a majority of the difference isn't the wheel itself but the tires that come on the higher wheel sizes. The stock tires that you can get on the 20 inch wheels such as mine are only rated for 2100lbs a piece and are passenger car tires. I had to go a plus size tire to get a load rating tire.
In the end the ratings are what they are, can't change em and can only speculate on what the breaking points are.
In the end the ratings are what they are, can't change em and can only speculate on what the breaking points are.
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I think a majority of the difference isn't the wheel itself but the tires that come on the higher wheel sizes. The stock tires that you can get on the 20 inch wheels such as mine are only rated for 2100lbs a piece and are passenger car tires. I had to go a plus size tire to get a load rating tire.
In the end the ratings are what they are, can't change em and can only speculate on what the breaking points are.
In the end the ratings are what they are, can't change em and can only speculate on what the breaking points are.
