Lambo Green Reptar is getting new paint again!
#46
Were those other people opening up a dealerships to do it? I appreciate his skill, but I don't see how this is a sustainable business model. You just can't slap their logos on it and sell it. It has to be a real Raptor or King Ranch to start with or it is violating trademearks and copyrights owned by others not to mention its unfair competition to dealers of the real thing.
Example:
Holy smokes Batman! Court finds Batmobile replicas infringe DC Comics’ copyrights
http://www.lexology.com/library/deta...6-ccb8c571966a
Example:
Holy smokes Batman! Court finds Batmobile replicas infringe DC Comics’ copyrights
http://www.lexology.com/library/deta...6-ccb8c571966a
#47
I agree with that actually. But that's because V6 mustangs are gross haha. I understand the analogy though.
I agree with the copyright concerns. All of that Stuff gets very complicated, tricky, and delicate. I do believe that this particular truck is his personal vehicle though. But I can certainly see where selling vehicles with "Raptor"/SVT and King Ranch involved can end badly
I agree with the copyright concerns. All of that Stuff gets very complicated, tricky, and delicate. I do believe that this particular truck is his personal vehicle though. But I can certainly see where selling vehicles with "Raptor"/SVT and King Ranch involved can end badly
"My business is customizing vehicles...I build trucks, sell them. Move on to the next truck."
This is a business.
#48
Ok seriously if i dont like a truck or how they go about doing it, i just keep scrolling. If i decide to post something it would be on the lines of "dont care for paint".... Move on people.... Bickering about how u really dont like it is not changing the fact that im still doing what im doing. Been doing this since i was 15 and I've had over 75 cars in the process. Negative posts come have been around since i been on furums in 2004.
Lets get back on topic about the change up im doing. Hopefully i will have like 3 more f150s next month on quick builds.
Lets get back on topic about the change up im doing. Hopefully i will have like 3 more f150s next month on quick builds.
#49
Started with flat black paint an let it fully dry. Got some chromelusion house of color paint and sprayed 1.5 secods onto a grocery bag, then dabbed the pieces to create a crinkle effect. This can be done with rattle can easily but the rattle.can needs a clear coat.... And a clear coat will turn the chrome to silver in color instantly.
#53
I think we should, despite any personal opinions, leave the business aspects of this alone. He will likely do what he wishes anyway, and it will be for his gain or loss. He hasn't said exactly what he's doing with it anyway. Let's keep this thread solely about the truck and what he has done to it and is doing to it.
I mean this as no disrespect to any of the posters here...we have all seen these kinds of threads many times. While his truck is not my thing, I did learn something from his pics...I had always wondered how to remove the interior dash trim panels in case I ever wanted to paint them and I can see where many of the clip locations are in his pics...so thanks to the OP for that!!
#54
Started with flat black paint an let it fully dry. Got some chromelusion house of color paint and sprayed 1.5 secods onto a grocery bag, then dabbed the pieces to create a crinkle effect. This can be done with rattle can easily but the rattle.can needs a clear coat.... And a clear coat will turn the chrome to silver in color instantly.
#55
But once you slap on the counterfeit King Ranch logos on counterfeit KR seats / SVT logos and Raptor logos/banners emblems that is clearly illegal. Liability doesn't just extend to businesses. As an individual you can also be held liable for the sale of counterfeit items - even a single item on Cragislist. They will usually list it as a replica or "conversion" but the proper name is counterfeit.
I'm not trying to flame but this all started because he said this was his business. If he said this was just a hobby or didn't use the logos or put it up for sale for profit on Craigslist nobody would even care.
"Liability for the sale of counterfeit items can extend to the sale
of a single good.150 Infringement is not limited to large-scale operations.
Manufacturers of replica products have another way to infiltrate
the marketplace. Replica goods are also sold on a smaller
scale, including by individuals and small businesses, such as private
“purse parties” or other similar events where individuals sell replica
products within their communities for income. This type of sponsored
social event will further lessen the stigma associated with selling
and purchasing counterfeit products. The transaction occurs in
someone’s home and typically originates with a friend or acquaintance.
These products are generally promoted as “inspired by,”
“imitation,” or “replica,” anything but “counterfeit.”151 Little do
they realize, under the Lanham Act, the host of such a party is liable
for selling counterfeit merchandise.152 Of course, due to the difficulties
in identifying these events, the cost of enforcement actions
and perhaps the negative public image of shutting down social
events, trademark owners rarely go after such small scale operations.
There are few statistics on the enforcement actions against
conduct such as purse parties. Nonetheless, it has been reported
that individuals have been charged with criminal penalties for hosting
such events.153"
"In a best case scenario, the whole mentality that replica counterfeits
are a harmless hobby will become extinct. Whether purse
parties, street vendors, or tourists traveling to the major cities to
buy these goods, often all invoking the wishful thinking folklore
that replica counterfeits are somehow legitimate or permitted, or
even in the brand owners worst nightmare, that replicas are just
wholesale cost versions of the name brand item (forgetting about
the price spread between the $35.00 counterfeit and the $2000.00
original). Hope springs eternal. A successful informational attack
on online retailers and consumers regarding the ethical and legal
implications of replica goods is necessary in order to make some
headway in enforcement. From a strictly legal standpoint, although
it is highly desirable to amend the statute to expressly include replicas
in the counterfeit definition, it is not necessary because counterfeits
by any name are still illegal. Trademark owners must be
proactive and search for alternative ways to enforce their intellectual
property rights, including holding third parties liable for
infringement."
of a single good.150 Infringement is not limited to large-scale operations.
Manufacturers of replica products have another way to infiltrate
the marketplace. Replica goods are also sold on a smaller
scale, including by individuals and small businesses, such as private
“purse parties” or other similar events where individuals sell replica
products within their communities for income. This type of sponsored
social event will further lessen the stigma associated with selling
and purchasing counterfeit products. The transaction occurs in
someone’s home and typically originates with a friend or acquaintance.
These products are generally promoted as “inspired by,”
“imitation,” or “replica,” anything but “counterfeit.”151 Little do
they realize, under the Lanham Act, the host of such a party is liable
for selling counterfeit merchandise.152 Of course, due to the difficulties
in identifying these events, the cost of enforcement actions
and perhaps the negative public image of shutting down social
events, trademark owners rarely go after such small scale operations.
There are few statistics on the enforcement actions against
conduct such as purse parties. Nonetheless, it has been reported
that individuals have been charged with criminal penalties for hosting
such events.153"
"In a best case scenario, the whole mentality that replica counterfeits
are a harmless hobby will become extinct. Whether purse
parties, street vendors, or tourists traveling to the major cities to
buy these goods, often all invoking the wishful thinking folklore
that replica counterfeits are somehow legitimate or permitted, or
even in the brand owners worst nightmare, that replicas are just
wholesale cost versions of the name brand item (forgetting about
the price spread between the $35.00 counterfeit and the $2000.00
original). Hope springs eternal. A successful informational attack
on online retailers and consumers regarding the ethical and legal
implications of replica goods is necessary in order to make some
headway in enforcement. From a strictly legal standpoint, although
it is highly desirable to amend the statute to expressly include replicas
in the counterfeit definition, it is not necessary because counterfeits
by any name are still illegal. Trademark owners must be
proactive and search for alternative ways to enforce their intellectual
property rights, including holding third parties liable for
infringement."
#59
I agree with that actually. But that's because V6 mustangs are gross haha. I understand the analogy though.
Rambo, I agree with the copyright concerns. All of that Stuff gets very complicated, tricky, and delicate. I do believe that this particular truck is his personal vehicle though. But I can certainly see where selling vehicles with "Raptor"/SVT and King Ranch involved can end badly
Rambo, I agree with the copyright concerns. All of that Stuff gets very complicated, tricky, and delicate. I do believe that this particular truck is his personal vehicle though. But I can certainly see where selling vehicles with "Raptor"/SVT and King Ranch involved can end badly
I think we should, despite any personal opinions, leave the business aspects of this alone. He will likely do what he wishes anyway, and it will be for his gain or loss. He hasn't said exactly what he's doing with it anyway. Let's keep this thread solely about the truck and what he has done to it and is doing to it.
Also note this from the another F150 forum:
05-30-2013, 08:10 PM
mikegmang
Another Crazy Transformation to FX4
"Me an my buddy are deciding to open up a dealership an paint customizing shop. Decided our first ride will be my 2011 reptar. Lambo green looks really bright an only appeals to the right buyer. I've decided on changing the whole paint sceme an interior colors. Should start painting the frame braces tomorrow. Hopefully will start more trucks soon."
So this dealership will be selling the counterfeit Raptor. It will be the first ride. With more fake Raptors coming soon. lol. Probably more fake King Ranches. too.
That's my point whether people want to think it is harmful or not. He can change the lime green color all he wants but he needs to take off the badges if he wants to be legal and selling these as a business.
Again if this was a hobby, nobody cares, once he starts opening the dealership or selling on Cragislist then it becomes an issue. You already agreed on this. For example, Toyota came up with a King Ranch knock off for their 2014 Tundra but they don't call it King Ranch. It's 1791. That's the direction he should be going. Different names and not copies. I don't think "Reptar" will fly either specially with the Raptor and SVT logos all over the vehicle.
Last edited by bluegreenf150; 06-02-2013 at 04:15 PM.