Lambo Green Reptar is getting new paint again!
#61
06-02-2013, 04:10 PM
Some have missed the point on the matter of replicating the Raptor/KR. I seriously doubt Ford/SVT/KR would prosecute the individual who builds a replica Raptor for themselves but this is a dealership profiting off a Raptor/King Ranch names without permission. For example you can copy a CD or DVD for your private use but you can not SELL that copy.
Delaers of the originals should have the right to protect their creations and prevent dealerships from opening to make counterfeit Raptors and from profiting from their work. The emphasis being profiting. I’m surprised anyone would open a dealership to duplicate a well-known Raptor truc. currently in production without checking the legal status first.
It also causes confusion down the line even if an individual does it for himself. Eventually he will sell it. The original owner knows it is counterfeit, this info gets lost years down the line as the truck changes hands. I know we have seen several members on here who thought they were buying a FX4 but they were actually purchased a XLT with FX4 stickers.
The key to all of this and a dealership will be ‘permission’. Ford does not give dealers permission to make counterfeit Raptors. Everyone has dreams of buying and selling a type of Raptors and King Ranches, but where possible buy the original, but if you can not afford the original buy what you can afford, but do not support any business that is profiting by breaking any law.
Delaers of the originals should have the right to protect their creations and prevent dealerships from opening to make counterfeit Raptors and from profiting from their work. The emphasis being profiting. I’m surprised anyone would open a dealership to duplicate a well-known Raptor truc. currently in production without checking the legal status first.
It also causes confusion down the line even if an individual does it for himself. Eventually he will sell it. The original owner knows it is counterfeit, this info gets lost years down the line as the truck changes hands. I know we have seen several members on here who thought they were buying a FX4 but they were actually purchased a XLT with FX4 stickers.
The key to all of this and a dealership will be ‘permission’. Ford does not give dealers permission to make counterfeit Raptors. Everyone has dreams of buying and selling a type of Raptors and King Ranches, but where possible buy the original, but if you can not afford the original buy what you can afford, but do not support any business that is profiting by breaking any law.
#63
06-02-2013, 04:47 PM
You already posted the link to Craigslist so we know what he is doing with it and he already said it was a business.
Also note this from the another F150 forum:
05-30-2013, 08:10 PM
mikegmang
Another Crazy Transformation to FX4
"Me an my buddy are deciding to open up a dealership an paint customizing shop. Decided our first ride will be my 2011 reptar. Lambo green looks really bright an only appeals to the right buyer. I've decided on changing the whole paint sceme an interior colors. Should start painting the frame braces tomorrow. Hopefully will start more trucks soon."
So this dealership will be selling the counterfeit Raptor. It will be the first ride. With more fake Raptors coming soon. lol. Probably more fake King Ranches. too.
That's my point whether people want to think it is harmful or not. He can change the lime green color all he wants but he needs to take off the badges if he wants to be legal and selling these as a business.
Again if this was a hobby, nobody cares, once he starts opening the dealership or selling on Cragislist then it becomes an issue. You already agreed on this. For example, Toyota came up with a King Ranch knock off for their 2014 Tundra but they don't call it King Ranch. It's 1791. That's the direction he should be going. Different names and not copies. I don't think "Reptar" will fly either specially with the Raptor and SVT logos all over the vehicle.
Also note this from the another F150 forum:
05-30-2013, 08:10 PM
mikegmang
Another Crazy Transformation to FX4
"Me an my buddy are deciding to open up a dealership an paint customizing shop. Decided our first ride will be my 2011 reptar. Lambo green looks really bright an only appeals to the right buyer. I've decided on changing the whole paint sceme an interior colors. Should start painting the frame braces tomorrow. Hopefully will start more trucks soon."
So this dealership will be selling the counterfeit Raptor. It will be the first ride. With more fake Raptors coming soon. lol. Probably more fake King Ranches. too.
That's my point whether people want to think it is harmful or not. He can change the lime green color all he wants but he needs to take off the badges if he wants to be legal and selling these as a business.
Again if this was a hobby, nobody cares, once he starts opening the dealership or selling on Cragislist then it becomes an issue. You already agreed on this. For example, Toyota came up with a King Ranch knock off for their 2014 Tundra but they don't call it King Ranch. It's 1791. That's the direction he should be going. Different names and not copies. I don't think "Reptar" will fly either specially with the Raptor and SVT logos all over the vehicle.
#64
06-02-2013, 06:04 PM
You already posted the link to Craigslist so we know what he is doing with it and he already said it was a business.
Also note this from the another F150 forum:
05-30-2013, 08:10 PM
mikegmang
Another Crazy Transformation to FX4
"Me an my buddy are deciding to open up a dealership an paint customizing shop. Decided our first ride will be my 2011 reptar. Lambo green looks really bright an only appeals to the right buyer. I've decided on changing the whole paint sceme an interior colors. Should start painting the frame braces tomorrow. Hopefully will start more trucks soon."
Also note this from the another F150 forum:
05-30-2013, 08:10 PM
mikegmang
Another Crazy Transformation to FX4
"Me an my buddy are deciding to open up a dealership an paint customizing shop. Decided our first ride will be my 2011 reptar. Lambo green looks really bright an only appeals to the right buyer. I've decided on changing the whole paint sceme an interior colors. Should start painting the frame braces tomorrow. Hopefully will start more trucks soon."
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06-02-2013, 06:45 PM
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Photoshop strikes again.
Interesting. Identical background and identical angle in all 4 pics.
I'd like one in rainbow with a pineapple on top.
I'd like one in rainbow with a pineapple on top.
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06-02-2013, 06:47 PM
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Mikegmang.. if you are in Texas you are required by law to have a dealer's license if you are buying and selling vehicles for a profit, even if you only do one a year. Some states will allow you to do one of two a year without being a dealer, but Texas isn't one of them.
If you are buying and not transferring the title to your name it becomes an even bigger deal.
If you are customizing other people's vehicles for them, then being a licensed dealer isn't a requirement.
Bluegreenf150 - if he is customizing for other people and using authorized parts, then the cloning isn't a legal issue at all. If he is doing it with unauthorized parts and/or with the purpose of selling it as a Raptor, then there is an issue.
If you are buying and not transferring the title to your name it becomes an even bigger deal.
If you are customizing other people's vehicles for them, then being a licensed dealer isn't a requirement.
Bluegreenf150 - if he is customizing for other people and using authorized parts, then the cloning isn't a legal issue at all. If he is doing it with unauthorized parts and/or with the purpose of selling it as a Raptor, then there is an issue.
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06-02-2013, 07:27 PM
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I have a dealer license, lot, bond an all the paperwork. Not worried about any issues on reselling. If any problems or issues come up I will start a new thread an send an invite to the main person posting about me selling trucks!!
#74
06-02-2013, 07:50 PM
Mikegmang.. if you are in Texas you are required by law to have a dealer's license if you are buying and selling vehicles for a profit, even if you only do one a year. Some states will allow you to do one of two a year without being a dealer, but Texas isn't one of them.
If you are buying and not transferring the title to your name it becomes an even bigger deal.
If you are customizing other people's vehicles for them, then being a licensed dealer isn't a requirement.
Bluegreenf150 - if he is customizing for other people and using authorized parts, then the cloning isn't a legal issue at all. If he is doing it with unauthorized parts and/or with the purpose of selling it as a Raptor, then there is an issue.
If you are buying and not transferring the title to your name it becomes an even bigger deal.
If you are customizing other people's vehicles for them, then being a licensed dealer isn't a requirement.
Bluegreenf150 - if he is customizing for other people and using authorized parts, then the cloning isn't a legal issue at all. If he is doing it with unauthorized parts and/or with the purpose of selling it as a Raptor, then there is an issue.
