My truck sits just below level if they place the load directly over the rear axle..It does sag but i wouldn't say it is bad...

 

16% is just what the percentage is of the dry weights happened to be on my trailer... it's not proportional by any means. I am not overloading my truck, it sits nearly level without any help, and I've already proved I'm under my GCWR, and my payload calculated is within the limits of the truck. It is a reputable RV dealer that has been around for 50+ years and I know the owner personally. The owner also happens to be the sales person that sold me the trailer.

1500lbs of weight in the bed of these trucks will make them sag to the point that they do not travel level and will look like their asses are draggin. Clearly from my loaded pictures I don't have 1500lbs in my bed. You can play number games all day long, the weights are correct and within the limits of my truck.

 

Dude whatever your smoking I definitley want some!! I'm done with this thread, best of luck to you..

 

Good, now go troll the other multiple forums that I've seen you arguing on.

 

Just because I can't understand your way of thinking when it comes to payload and trailer pin weight I'm a troll?? All I did was the simple math it takes to figure out you will be over your payload and I'm just a troll. Then I hear that the posted #'s on your truck and trailer must be wrong because you say your truck doesn't sag that much so there can't be that much weight on the back of my truck and I'm just a troll?? How can you call it trolling when all I'm doing is showing you the facts that are right in front of your face?? I should have taken the advice when it was given to me in the beginning of this thread and not wasted my breath talking to "Deaf ears"..

I guess it's true, You can't fix stupid!

 

Your math was no where near correct, I already posted the simple math to prove I was within the payload and GVWR limits of my truck and have weight slips to prove it. These trucks are more capable than you think, it's just a matter of finding the right trailer with the right layout.

Trolling means your searching for something, doesn't matter what forum I'm on I constantly see a Kevin O some variant or Kevin with a 2012 f150 and 2011 outback searching for things that are wrong and then arguing about them and when you don't get the answer you want you claim stupidity. You are nothing more than a pathetic troll. Move along....

 

Ok guys, you have all made your points and are now just belaboring the subject. This is when it gets personal and the name calling starts. Time to move on, and let it lie.

Thanks

 

I never doubted the capability of these trucks. I'm simply going by the posted ratings on your truck and trailer. So please explain to me where my figures are wrong PLEASE?? You said yourself in post #12 figuring 16% of the trailers weight for the pin weight which is 1502lbs. Then you said that's not to bad??? So please explain to me how you are within your payload rating of 1555lbs????? You only have 53lbs left of payload and you still have to factor in the weight of you and the family, plus gear, plus the 150lbs of the fifth wheel hitch itself!!!! PLEASE explain to me how you could possibly be within your payload rating and under your rear axle rating?? If you can also post the scale slip that shows the weight on your trucks front and rear axles with the trailer attached. The only thing the numbers you posted prove is that your truck empty is 6228lbs and the trailer is 9392lbs nothing else. Then you just added them together and said I'm under my GCWR so I'm fine. I want to see how much weight the trailer adds to your truck once hooked up.The sad thing is you will be adding even more weight to the trailer over time which does happen and with a GVWR of 11,440lbs on the trailer you have plenty of wiggle room!

If my calculations are wrong i will gladly apologize... I will apologize now for calling you stupid.

 

Good resource here for detailed specs on the f150.

https://www.fleet.ford.com/truckbbas...013/specs.html

20inch machined aluminum wheels rated for 2025lbs each, so max loading of 8100lbs with my current wheels nice to know.


wheels = 2025lb capacity each
tires = 3300lb capacity each
GAWR = 7950lb capacity per the door jam
GVWR = 7700lb capacity per the door jam

"Gross Axle Weight Rating (GAWR) is determined by the rated capacity of the minimum component of the axle system (axle, computer selected
springs, wheels, tires) of a specific vehicle. Front and rear GAWRs will, in all cases, sum to a number equal to or greater than the
GVWR for the particular vehicle." So essentially the ratings are based off of the weakest component, obviously with some buffer in there.

 

Wow that is one hell of a rig! My 5.0 STX 4x4 has very close payload capacity (1830 Lbs) even though it does not have max tow. I could not tow this because I am actually short on towing capacity as mine is rated at 7800 Lbs only with 3.55 gears. This still seems like a good balance as even a 7000 lb. 5th wheel would but about 1200 lbs on the bed (hitch included). That leaves about 600 for family and gear which is comfortable.

 

You just can't give me a straight forward answer can you. Plain and simple, the yellow sticker on your door jam reads " cargo and passengers should NOT exceed 1555lbs and your RAWR is 4050lbs. With that trailer you sir are over those ratings plain and simple. I'm not going to say it doesn't look good because it's a beautiful setup but the fact of the matter is you should have either purchased the HD pkg with a payload in the 2000-2400lb range or you should have purchased a lighter trailer...

 

Sheesh Kevin O. ,why are you badgering this guy? He is got an awesome setup with a truck that can handle it. Even with the hitch, he has about 1400 on the back. That still leaves him with about 500 lbs to spare for people and cargo. Give it a rest for Christ sake.

 

As I stated previously, you've posted your thoughts and are repeating yourself. I said it was time to move on. That's it.

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I had never seen that detailed spec page I linked in post #84, very good read for anyone towing.

Nihilus yea that 3.55 rear end is killing it for you. Just depends what your towing, my brother in law has a titan with the 2.97 rear end and his max tow is 7100lbs. As he puts it, it will tow just about any bass boat he wants lol

 

He keeps telling me I'm wrong and dealing with inaccurate statements like yours thats what keeps me coming back.. Where are you getting your #'s from now??? If in fact his pin weight is 1400lbs where did you come up with him having 500lbs left for people and cargo??? His payload rating is 1555lbs not 1900lbs.. I will agree it is a nice looking setup..