I don't really have much love for V6's in general. Ford really f'd up getting rid of their straight 6's. I would take a 300 straight 6 over any V6.

 

^Just curious, why??

 

Because it had less HP, less torque, and got worse fuel economy than the EB? Or maybe it's because the EB will outlast (most likely, since modern engines are so much more reliable) the old 300?

 

Don't forget, V8's have 1/3 more injectors to replace than a V6 too!

Not to mention, they are a lot harder to reach on a V8!

 

Interesting that you see it that way. Not what I see at all. I see the EB guys being overly sensitive to anyone raising a question about the EB or stating that they would make the choice of a different engine. Do a search of engine problems and tell me which engine has the most posts reporting a problem. Is it the 3.7? Virtually none. The 6.2? Nope. The 5.0? Almost none and considering their numbers sold, amazing statistic. Now look at the number of EB threads. You have to be blind or in a a state of denial not to see it. There are people that have sold their EB just to get rid of the problem. Like many things in life that some consider an improvement or a technology break through, I'm a little slow in the uptake. Some things called an improvement are really there because those in leadership positions sell the idea. Usually a profit motive but you see it in all phases of life including religion and especially politics.

I have driven 3 EBs and have yet to see what all the fuss is about. I hope those of you that have them enjoy many trouble free miles, there is no need to get all defensive when someone has an opposing opinion.

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I know the LR 5.0L DI Injectors are identical to the 2.0L Ecoboost injectors, they just require a different spacer/clip. I assumed the 3.5L Eco uses the same injectors.

 

Why are we all fighting?! Can't we just be happy we aren't driving a Chevy? Ha..

Ok get back to arguing it gives me something to read when I'm bored

 

Actually I didn't state anything incorrect, I was infering...

Don't make me ban you

 

It's LR...they charge you just because they can!

 

If your going to compare the engines, drive both of them with the same rear ends and same configurations. After you've driven them both, sign on the dotted line and drive the EB off the lot.

P.S. The EB is far superior to the 5.slow

P.S.S. Got Boost?

 

The 300 was pretty much bulletproof. The 200 and 300 straight six are probably the most reliable motors Ford has ever produced. They would take a beating and beg for more. I had a 200 in a Fairmont Futura I bought from my stepbrother. Water pump went out and it overheated just a couple miles from home and died when he had it. He let it cool down and it fired right back up and got him back home. I flipped that car and it still would start run and drive.

A friend of mine has a 300 in his mud toy. He often uses it to pull out larger trucks that get stuck. He has overheated it quite a few times due to mud clogging up the radiator. He just lets it cool down, cleans the radiator off and goes back out for more. I highly doubt ecoboost's are going to handle that kind of abuse. People have had trouble with them in just a little bit of rain.

Just because it is newer doesn't make it more reliable. A turbo Ford I6 would destroy an ecoboost. The low end torque of such a motor would be drool worthy indeed.

 

Fshr, How heavy is the 29' house trailer?

 

I did that very thing in 2011. Even same color with exact same options except engines. My choice was the 5.0 and at 60,000 miles, I have had oil changes, new tires and one road hazard flat. It is exactly what I needed. I'm a former drag racer, have built engines and know what I like for a responsive engine. The only difference I felt during the test drives was the lag when I punched the EB.

I agree with half you post. Test drive the different engines optioned the same, consider how you will be using it, and buy the one you like.

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Yikes! This escalated quickly! I mean, this really got out of hand! (reference to Ron Burgundy)

Really, Coy? Come on, man. I'm disappointed in this. Besides, it seems like the EB guys are the ones constantly trying to flex...something.

X2. However, I actually do tow/haul quite a bit. Absolutely zero issues whatsoever. I had 4 heaping, actual 1 cubic yard scoops of dense, moist mulch in the bed just a couple weekends ago, and it performed flawlessly. Google how much that weighs. Not too shabby for any "half-ton" truck, much less, a meager, lowly, puny 5.0.

Maybe this is a better way to put it (and this was one of the major deciding factors for me when I decided) :

Ford has been making good, solid, normally aspirated V8 engines for a long time. They're quite good at it. However, they haven't been making boosted gas engines for long. Hence, the latter isn't as "proven" as the former.



And I hadn't even chimed in yet!!

Hmmm...I guess that depends on what an individual's idea of "way more power" is. To me, 5 hp and 30 ft lbs just doesn't qualify as "way more". IMHO, the major difference lies where the power is supplied in the RPM range. Ecoboost makes more torque down low. The 5.0 makes its power a little higher in the range.

Agreed.

Wow. Couldn't have said it better myself!

Ummm...no.

Of all the people on the forum, prime81 would be the LAST person I would have thought would comment on the vast "superiority" of the EB.

 

Trailer is about 7K loaded up