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Old 12-25-2013, 04:33 PM
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Fuel filter is inside of tank for 09+ I've seen a lot of high mile f-150s come in my shop and I haven't see a problem with any of the fuel filters. Just a fuel pump once in a blue moon though. I wouldn't worry about it.
 
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Old 12-26-2013, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 88racing
every 20k-30k....imo

depending on where you buy yer gas from....

this is what mine looked like on the average after 20k...
I only use Shell or Chevron, but I have no idea what was used for the first 74k. Guess I'll be changing mine soon!
 
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Old 12-26-2013, 03:58 PM
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I only use Shell or Chevron, but I have no idea what was used for the first 74k. Guess I'll be changing mine soon!
doesn't make a difference on WHAT brand gas you put in....its WHERE you buy it from....imo
 
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Old 12-28-2013, 06:02 PM
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Ford probably figured since the other 90% of f150 owners never change the filter anyway, why not just eliminate it. I know every one here does but what about the rest who never go on a forum.
That's a pretty idiotic thing to say...
 
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Old 12-28-2013, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 88racing
not true.....gm removed the fuel filter in the gas trucks and rely on a sock on the fuel pump pick up tube in 2006-2007 depending on the model....so they beat Ford by a couple of years on that one....
So Ford is #2 in the race to the bottom on this one, using the "Chevy does it" mentality will get a lot more Dodge buyers in the long run.

I change my fuel filter once a year, it's always got brown coming out of it, this is a cheap *** thing to do. Especially when you have no gas cap!
 

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Old 12-28-2013, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by 05RedFX4
Ford probably figured since the other 90% of f150 owners never change the filter anyway, why not just eliminate it. I know every one here does but what about the rest who never go on a forum.
The same people that never change their oil. It makes no sense to design products with that mentality. How well do the 100k spark plug life cycles work out on the 3v engines?
 
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Old 12-28-2013, 06:35 PM
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Wifes Chrysler is a 07 and the filter is in the tank. Guess all of the big 3 has gone to this
 
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Old 12-28-2013, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by crazynip
That's a pretty idiotic thing to say...
Maybe, but you know it's most likely true.

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It makes no sense to design products with that mentality. How well do the 100k spark plug life cycles work out on the 3v engines?
Quit the contrary, why do you think Fords engineers design the vehicles to start out in third gear on manual cars and put in a very conservative tune. Because they know there will be plenty of idiots driving them.

I wouldn't know how long the 3v plugs lasted, I traded mine in with 39K
 
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Old 12-28-2013, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by KingRanchCoy
Wifes Chrysler is a 07 and the filter is in the tank. Guess all of the big 3 has gone to this
Heck - Kia did this in 2003+ for the Sorento. At least they provided a nice removable access panel in the rear cargo area right over the tank float/ pump/ filter assembly. Filter R&R is cake. And yep - it do git dirty.

Nice of them to acknowledge R&R would be a real good idear at some point, lol.

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Old 12-28-2013, 07:55 PM
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Heck - Kia did this in 2003+ for the Sorento. At least they provided a nice removable access panel in the rear cargo area right over the tank float/ pump/ filter assembly. Filter R&R is cake. And yep - it do git dirty.
Thats pretty cool
 
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Old 12-28-2013, 09:05 PM
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By the way, there has been fuel filters in the tank, on pretty much all makes since they started putting fuel pumps IN tanks about the time of the advent of fuel injection, but they have also had in-line ones.
 
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Old 12-29-2013, 02:48 AM
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The in-tank fuel filters weren't the only filter, and they were just a sock to keep big chunks out of the pickup.
 
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Old 12-29-2013, 10:09 AM
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Y'all do realize there is a reason for moving the filter.

When the filter is halfway down the line all the junk has to run through the pump. All that trash wears the internal parts of the pump out and they get mixed in with the fuel and pumped to the motor. If you were lucky the filter caught most of it. If the filter is before the pump the trash is stopped before it gets to the pump and causes damage. Since most cars have the pump in the tank the filter has to be there too. To deal with this most manufactures have added an access panel to the tank to pull the pump and filter out.
 
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Old 12-29-2013, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Wookie
Y'all do realize there is a reason for moving the filter.

When the filter is halfway down the line all the junk has to run through the pump. All that trash wears the internal parts of the pump out and they get mixed in with the fuel and pumped to the motor. If you were lucky the filter caught most of it. If the filter is before the pump the trash is stopped before it gets to the pump and causes damage. Since most cars have the pump in the tank the filter has to be there too. To deal with this most manufactures have added an access panel to the tank to pull the pump and filter out.
Yep.

Still, on a pick-me-up, it's a PITA to drop the tank or remove the bed to get to that panel.

Wouldn't be difficult to add an in-bed access hatch over the tank to help facilitate this, if they weren't so adamant that it was a 'lifetime' part, hence no need fer said access. ( Like 100k plugs, lifetime balljoints, lifetime trans/diff fluids, etc . All TCO crap, imho.... )

Hell - isn't that where Ridgelines had their jack/tool compartment - which was inaccessible when the bed was full of mulch. Oops,

EDIT: Does an EB truck have any sort of supplementary filter for fuel? I'd reckon the high pressure injectors would be more prone to damage from particulates than the 'normal' 40 psi variety. Especially after the original in-tank unit has been in service fer a few years.


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