Originally Posted by Patman

cooled seats don't actually "cool" but they do help move air off of your body (butt and lumbar) and help your body naturally cool down on its own. They are just a small electric motor, and a small bellow/duct work.

Originally Posted by Patman

cooled seats don't actually "cool" but they do help move air off of your body (butt and lumbar) and help your body naturally cool down on its own. They are just a small electric motor, and a small bellow/duct work.

Originally Posted by Wookie

True, they don't really cool the cab down but the do work to cool the driver and make it seem like it's cooler in the truck. I drove around yesterday and the duct temp never dropped below 56* but it got there within a mile or two of driving and stayed there. I hit a little bit of stop and go traffic and it held mid-50s. I might check the pressures on the system if I get a chance but the cooling doesn't really bother me so it's not a high priority.

Originally Posted by Patman

Again the cooled seats have absolutely nothing to do with the traditional HVAC on the truck, other than where the buttons are located. The cooled seats are nothing more than a fan and duct work. No actual heat exchange process takes place inside the seat.

Originally Posted by digitaltrucker

Are you saying that the air provided from the seat DOES NOT COME FROM THE MAIN AC SYSTEM?



Because when on, its colder than normal cabin air???????????

Originally Posted by Patman

Correct. Ford, Mercedes, Land Rover (used to be under ford) and Lexus all use a fan and bellow, no refrigerant or heat exchange process. It "feels" "cooler" because of natural cooling effect of drawing air.

It's like turning a ceiling fan on in your house. It feels cooler, without actually changing the temperature.

Originally Posted by Green Gem

Crappy Air Conditioning-Has Anyone Thought About A Class Action Suit?

I've just wasted months dealing with Ford of Canada's customer service people. They have absolutely no power to help, so don't waste your time going that route.

Beyond checking pressures and coolant levels, the dealers do nothing to search for the problem. The last one ran the truck in a cool shaded shop for about 30 minutes and got everything cooled off. After that they drove it for another 30 minutes and said it was fine. After that, I drove it for about an hour while the outside temperature continued to rise (I had waited for a hot day to book it in). At that point, the inside temperature was rising too. I shut off the air and lowered the windows when I began to sweat.

The truck blows cold air when you don't need it, so it is capable of blowing cold. I would bet on a sensor problem, but the dealers won't look. Mine has manual A/C. I'm told to bring it back next year if the problem persists. That's great logic, because it persists now. They are wasting my time and trying to run me out of warranty.

I have requested permission to take the truck to a private A/C shop and that has been ignored. My customer service representative stopped contacting me, so I called her and asked to speak with her supervisor. After I got pissed off, I was told that would happen within 48 hours.

When asked, the customer service representative said that she could not put me in contact with Ford Engineering. Apparently, only the dealers can talk to them.

It makes no sense that some of these trucks blow cold air when others don't (unless there is more than one system out there). The problem cannot be repaired if nobody will look for it.

As some think, cab size does not matter except for how long it will take to cool the truck. If one is not getting cold air out of the vents, no size cab will cool.

If nobody has started such a suit, advice on how to start one would be appreciated.

I would also like to know if any of you would be interested in this type of action.

Please don't post that your A/C works fine. I realize that some do. I'm looking into this for those of us who are sweating our asses off in an air conditioned truck. My Ford of Canada customer service representative works in Florida. I'll bet my *** that she would not drive my truck in her temperatures.

I like my truck, but I'm one pissed off F-150 owner. It is bad enough that it has had a rear oval replaced (peeling), a dash that occasionally changes screens on its own, a seat that goes down by itself, an O2 sensor, three catalytic converters, but it has this crappy A/C too.

It has been in five times for the A/C and NOBODY has looked beyond pressure and coolant. On its second visit dye was added because the coolant was down 0.725 in coolant. Where it went is anybody's guess.

Thanks

Green Gem

Originally Posted by F-150X

My 2011 works fine. Manual system.

Originally Posted by joe51

Green Gem,

Quick update: I finally had a chance to take my 150 out on the road today and see how cold the AC would get. After 22 miles the temp was down to about 38 or 39F. Outside temp was 88F, fan on high and recirculate was on. I left home about 10AM so the truck was hot when I started out but not like it is in the afternoon! BTW I left the thermometers in it the other day and when I came out at about 5 PM the next day, the one in the vent was reading 130F and the one laying in the pocket by the radio display was reading 140F! (before starting engine) That's about normal for a car left closed up and out in the sun here in Florida. My Quantum used to read about the same when I left work.

Anyway, today, even with the outside air at 88F I finally had to turn the heat on after about 35 miles. Cab temp was down to about 65F. I turned heat control **** to 10 o'clock position and air from vent was 65F and kept the cab temperature at about 76F. Turned it to 9 o'clock position and vent temp was about 55F and cab temp was about 72F. (fan on 3 for this part and recirculate was on.)

My AC seems to be fine.