Questions for Ford Engineers on the New Powertrain Options? Post them Here!
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Questions for Ford Engineers on the New Powertrain Options? Post them Here!
I'll be elbow to elbow with Ford Engineers beginning Tuesday night at a Media event for the new F-150's powertrain options....
While I know some of you are set to do events later in the week, please let me know if you have questions that you'd like for me to ask (if possible) and I'll do my best...
If this one is anything like the last one, I'll be around lead engineers for ALL the major systems on the truck (suspension, powertrain, etc)...
Let me know!
While I know some of you are set to do events later in the week, please let me know if you have questions that you'd like for me to ask (if possible) and I'll do my best...
If this one is anything like the last one, I'll be around lead engineers for ALL the major systems on the truck (suspension, powertrain, etc)...
Let me know!
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Here are a few off the top of my head...
- When you went fr 4 to 3 leafs on the Job 2 max tow/20" F150s in 2010+: did their rating stay the same or decrease?
- Why no e locker with the 6.2L?
- Why no EPS with the 6.2L? (if the answer is weight) then won't a fully loaded EB with max tow be close enough to then also have weight issues? Does 180 lbs draw the line in the sand?)
- Why no "My Touch" on the 2011 F-Series?
- Why no Heavy Duty payload pkg with the SCrew?
- Why not give us the option of choosing a V8 with the max tow: Why force us into a V6 when GM offers a 6.2L w/their max tow even on mid-trim levels. If it really is a superior product, the buyers will go there, customer is always right... right?
- Whats the TQ #of the 6.2L on reg fuel?
- Given the power figures of the now shelved 4.4L diesel was estimated at 330 /515, how did it perform vs the 6.2L and more importantly the EB? Could the EB "tow with it" and how did mileage compare both empty and towing?
- When will the online Build & Price tool be operational?
- When will the 4 valve 6.2L hit the F series?
- When will Ford finally upgrade the rear axle on the F150s to support the increasing GAWR given the new more capable powertrains? (hasn't changed in forever....)
And 2nd point, why not put the Heavy duty payload F150 rear axle with its higher GAWR into the max tow units, with a new more capable 6 bolt pattern. (no 7 bolts please)
- Could we ever see a full floater on a Heavy Duty payload pkg?
- Why doesn't Ford have liquid fillied vibration controlled body mounts yet? (like GM HD)
- Why is is so hard to figure out which configuration will get which GAWR, especially in front? Even the dealers can't make sense of it? Example: Some are 3,750, some are 3,900?
- Why not offer a LT tire on the 20" offering?
- Why not offer power telecoping and power fold TT mirrors on the F150?
- Where is the front license plate mounted on new 2011 EB trucks?
- When you went fr 4 to 3 leafs on the Job 2 max tow/20" F150s in 2010+: did their rating stay the same or decrease?
- Why no e locker with the 6.2L?
- Why no EPS with the 6.2L? (if the answer is weight) then won't a fully loaded EB with max tow be close enough to then also have weight issues? Does 180 lbs draw the line in the sand?)
- Why no "My Touch" on the 2011 F-Series?
- Why no Heavy Duty payload pkg with the SCrew?
- Why not give us the option of choosing a V8 with the max tow: Why force us into a V6 when GM offers a 6.2L w/their max tow even on mid-trim levels. If it really is a superior product, the buyers will go there, customer is always right... right?
- Whats the TQ #of the 6.2L on reg fuel?
- Given the power figures of the now shelved 4.4L diesel was estimated at 330 /515, how did it perform vs the 6.2L and more importantly the EB? Could the EB "tow with it" and how did mileage compare both empty and towing?
- When will the online Build & Price tool be operational?
- When will the 4 valve 6.2L hit the F series?
- When will Ford finally upgrade the rear axle on the F150s to support the increasing GAWR given the new more capable powertrains? (hasn't changed in forever....)
And 2nd point, why not put the Heavy duty payload F150 rear axle with its higher GAWR into the max tow units, with a new more capable 6 bolt pattern. (no 7 bolts please)
- Could we ever see a full floater on a Heavy Duty payload pkg?
- Why doesn't Ford have liquid fillied vibration controlled body mounts yet? (like GM HD)
- Why is is so hard to figure out which configuration will get which GAWR, especially in front? Even the dealers can't make sense of it? Example: Some are 3,750, some are 3,900?
- Why not offer a LT tire on the 20" offering?
- Why not offer power telecoping and power fold TT mirrors on the F150?
- Where is the front license plate mounted on new 2011 EB trucks?
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I would like to know towing mpg for the ecoboost vs the 6.2? The ecoboost is sure to bet it unloaded but will it loaded?
Also they rate max tow at 11,300 lbs. What specs is this based on? What I mean is if I pull 11,300 lbs what kind of performance should I expect? My old F150 with the 351 would tow it but would take a mile to get up to 55mph and going up a hill sometimes wouldn't get out of second gear. So does Ford have performance specs or standards that they use to "qualify" the ecoboost and 6.2 to be 11,300 lbs capable?
For example: Is there a 0-60 ET (towing) that they base this on?
Or a 1/4 mile ET that this is based on? What about incline?
Thanks
Also they rate max tow at 11,300 lbs. What specs is this based on? What I mean is if I pull 11,300 lbs what kind of performance should I expect? My old F150 with the 351 would tow it but would take a mile to get up to 55mph and going up a hill sometimes wouldn't get out of second gear. So does Ford have performance specs or standards that they use to "qualify" the ecoboost and 6.2 to be 11,300 lbs capable?
For example: Is there a 0-60 ET (towing) that they base this on?
Or a 1/4 mile ET that this is based on? What about incline?
Thanks
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Yes. Less fuel = lighter weight.
Which trucks will have Hill Descent Control?
Why didn't the F-150 get MyFord Touch?
Is there any new high strength steel anywhere for 2011?
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Negative. Same system, I was told... although, the particular engineer that I asked wasn't 100%...
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I would like to know towing mpg for the ecoboost vs the 6.2? The ecoboost is sure to bet it unloaded but will it loaded?
Also they rate max tow at 11,300 lbs. What specs is this based on? What I mean is if I pull 11,300 lbs what kind of performance should I expect? My old F150 with the 351 would tow it but would take a mile to get up to 55mph and going up a hill sometimes wouldn't get out of second gear. So does Ford have performance specs or standards that they use to "qualify" the ecoboost and 6.2 to be 11,300 lbs capable?
For example: Is there a 0-60 ET (towing) that they base this on?
Or a 1/4 mile ET that this is based on? What about incline?
Thanks
Also they rate max tow at 11,300 lbs. What specs is this based on? What I mean is if I pull 11,300 lbs what kind of performance should I expect? My old F150 with the 351 would tow it but would take a mile to get up to 55mph and going up a hill sometimes wouldn't get out of second gear. So does Ford have performance specs or standards that they use to "qualify" the ecoboost and 6.2 to be 11,300 lbs capable?
For example: Is there a 0-60 ET (towing) that they base this on?
Or a 1/4 mile ET that this is based on? What about incline?
Thanks
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These are GREAT questions but, my bonehead didn't get this one printed (no clue why -- I'll blame it on the Marriott printer). I'll do my best to answer where I can (see above).
[QUOTE=Power Kid;4343783]Here are a few off the top of my head...
- When you went fr 4 to 3 leafs on the Job 2 max tow/20" F150s in 2010+: did their rating stay the same or decrease?
RP: No idea.
- Why no e locker with the 6.2L?
RP: The engineer that was asked this question said that he didn't know of it to have ever been in the plans, I was told (someone else in my group asked this question.
- Why no EPS with the 6.2L? (if the answer is weight) then won't a fully loaded EB with max tow be close enough to then also have weight issues? Does 180 lbs draw the line in the sand?)
RP: DANG good question... I wish I had asked this one. Maybe we can get a FoMoCo engineer to sit in on this one....
- Why no "My Touch" on the 2011 F-Series?
RP: See above. Commonality was used SEVERAL times throughout the event. You'll start seeing motors, functions, features, etc becoming very similar across all lines, models.
- Why no Heavy Duty payload pkg with the SCrew?
RP: 7-lug will be available on SCAB. Don't know on the SCREW. I'll check my mktg literature when I get home.
- Why not give us the option of choosing a V8 with the max tow: Why force us into a V6 when GM offers a 6.2L w/their max tow even on mid-trim levels. If it really is a superior product, the buyers will go there, customer is always right... right?
RP: Another good one...maybe I am misunderstanding this question though. The V8 (5.0 and 6.2) *DO* have tow?
- Whats the TQ #of the 6.2L on reg fuel?
RP: I have it... but, it's at home. Will post later.
- Given the power figures of the now shelved 4.4L diesel was estimated at 330 /515, how did it perform vs the 6.2L and more importantly the EB? Could the EB "tow with it" and how did mileage compare both empty and towing?
RP: I'm embargoed on the impressions here. I can't talk numbers.... sorry. I can as of Monday.
- When will the online Build & Price tool be operational?
RP: I believe it's as early as TODAY.
- When will the 4 valve 6.2L hit the F series?
RP: Soon... EB, I'm told, will be early next year.
- When will Ford finally upgrade the rear axle on the F150s to support the increasing GAWR given the new more capable powertrains? (hasn't changed in forever....)
RP: Don't know.
And 2nd point, why not put the Heavy duty payload F150 rear axle with its higher GAWR into the max tow units, with a new more capable 6 bolt pattern. (no 7 bolts please)
- Could we ever see a full floater on a Heavy Duty payload pkg?
RP: Don't know.
- Why doesn't Ford have liquid fillied vibration controlled body mounts yet? (like GM HD)
RP: I believe I heard this one answered (albeit, asked by someone else). This is likely in R&D -- the answer was very 'canned'.
- Why is is so hard to figure out which configuration will get which GAWR, especially in front? Even the dealers can't make sense of it? Example: Some are 3,750, some are 3,900?
RP: Ehh... dunno.
- Why not offer a LT tire on the 20" offering?
RP: I talked to the guy that could've answered this one... sorry, don't have it.
- Why not offer power telecoping and power fold TT mirrors on the F150?
RP: Costing. Power telescoping and power tilt wheel will be avail.
- Where is the front license plate mounted on new 2011 EB trucks?
RP: Center, I believe.
You have some GREAT questions. I'll be sure to get you involved if and when we get Ford to come on and answer some questions. They're VERY interested in getting the word - and the correct word - out there so that folks can make informed decisions. The engineers that we were dealing with at the event were the guys that were IN THE TRENCHES building this truck. This wasn't a marketing 'hype' event --- the product spoke for itself.
While I can't comment on the Ford from a drive impressions standpoint, I can tell you what I felt with the Silvy, Tundra, and Dodge.... They were 3rd, 2nd, and 4th respectively in all events (drag, tow, economy, etc).
Mileage on the EB... oh... I can't talk about that.
[QUOTE=Power Kid;4343783]Here are a few off the top of my head...
- When you went fr 4 to 3 leafs on the Job 2 max tow/20" F150s in 2010+: did their rating stay the same or decrease?
RP: No idea.
- Why no e locker with the 6.2L?
RP: The engineer that was asked this question said that he didn't know of it to have ever been in the plans, I was told (someone else in my group asked this question.
- Why no EPS with the 6.2L? (if the answer is weight) then won't a fully loaded EB with max tow be close enough to then also have weight issues? Does 180 lbs draw the line in the sand?)
RP: DANG good question... I wish I had asked this one. Maybe we can get a FoMoCo engineer to sit in on this one....
- Why no "My Touch" on the 2011 F-Series?
RP: See above. Commonality was used SEVERAL times throughout the event. You'll start seeing motors, functions, features, etc becoming very similar across all lines, models.
- Why no Heavy Duty payload pkg with the SCrew?
RP: 7-lug will be available on SCAB. Don't know on the SCREW. I'll check my mktg literature when I get home.
- Why not give us the option of choosing a V8 with the max tow: Why force us into a V6 when GM offers a 6.2L w/their max tow even on mid-trim levels. If it really is a superior product, the buyers will go there, customer is always right... right?
RP: Another good one...maybe I am misunderstanding this question though. The V8 (5.0 and 6.2) *DO* have tow?
- Whats the TQ #of the 6.2L on reg fuel?
RP: I have it... but, it's at home. Will post later.
- Given the power figures of the now shelved 4.4L diesel was estimated at 330 /515, how did it perform vs the 6.2L and more importantly the EB? Could the EB "tow with it" and how did mileage compare both empty and towing?
RP: I'm embargoed on the impressions here. I can't talk numbers.... sorry. I can as of Monday.
- When will the online Build & Price tool be operational?
RP: I believe it's as early as TODAY.
- When will the 4 valve 6.2L hit the F series?
RP: Soon... EB, I'm told, will be early next year.
- When will Ford finally upgrade the rear axle on the F150s to support the increasing GAWR given the new more capable powertrains? (hasn't changed in forever....)
RP: Don't know.
And 2nd point, why not put the Heavy duty payload F150 rear axle with its higher GAWR into the max tow units, with a new more capable 6 bolt pattern. (no 7 bolts please)
- Could we ever see a full floater on a Heavy Duty payload pkg?
RP: Don't know.
- Why doesn't Ford have liquid fillied vibration controlled body mounts yet? (like GM HD)
RP: I believe I heard this one answered (albeit, asked by someone else). This is likely in R&D -- the answer was very 'canned'.
- Why is is so hard to figure out which configuration will get which GAWR, especially in front? Even the dealers can't make sense of it? Example: Some are 3,750, some are 3,900?
RP: Ehh... dunno.
- Why not offer a LT tire on the 20" offering?
RP: I talked to the guy that could've answered this one... sorry, don't have it.
- Why not offer power telecoping and power fold TT mirrors on the F150?
RP: Costing. Power telescoping and power tilt wheel will be avail.
- Where is the front license plate mounted on new 2011 EB trucks?
RP: Center, I believe.
You have some GREAT questions. I'll be sure to get you involved if and when we get Ford to come on and answer some questions. They're VERY interested in getting the word - and the correct word - out there so that folks can make informed decisions. The engineers that we were dealing with at the event were the guys that were IN THE TRENCHES building this truck. This wasn't a marketing 'hype' event --- the product spoke for itself.
While I can't comment on the Ford from a drive impressions standpoint, I can tell you what I felt with the Silvy, Tundra, and Dodge.... They were 3rd, 2nd, and 4th respectively in all events (drag, tow, economy, etc).
Mileage on the EB... oh... I can't talk about that.