Volant CAI & Edge?
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Volant CAI & Edge?
I just purchased a Volant CAI # 197546
I also have a edge programmer with factory tunes, my question is i have been reading on here is alot of people recommend a set of custom tunes on the edge....
Mods-
Volant CAI
Edge Programmer w/ factory tunes
Roush Dual Off-Road Exhaust Kit
Just wondering what everyones 2 cents is and where do you recommend me getting custom tunes done and what is the cost
Thanks,
Joe
I also have a edge programmer with factory tunes, my question is i have been reading on here is alot of people recommend a set of custom tunes on the edge....
Mods-
Volant CAI
Edge Programmer w/ factory tunes
Roush Dual Off-Road Exhaust Kit
Just wondering what everyones 2 cents is and where do you recommend me getting custom tunes done and what is the cost
Thanks,
Joe
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MGD
https://www.f150online.com/forums/20...ghlight=volant
https://www.f150online.com/forums/ex...ghlight=volant
https://www.f150online.com/forums/ot...ghlight=volant
https://www.f150online.com/forums/ex...ghlight=volant
https://www.f150online.com/forums/ex...ir-intake.html
....plus 859 more ...
MGD
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^^^
Hang on there - no, you CANNOT just put any intake kit on the 2004 & newer F-150's with the 5.4 3-valve motor, as virtually ALL the CAI's on the market for those vehicles WILL in fact cause the engine to go *drastically and dangerously* lean. It's not like the 2-valve & 4-valve modular motors, the 3V's have a different MAS system and it's far more unforgiving of changes made to the air intake tract. What Bartak1 very kindly responded with is accurate info for the 1997-2003 trucks, but not for the 2004 & up 5.4 3V motors.
We've gone over all of this many times before, so you can use the SEARCH feature here to retrieve & read any of our hundreds of previous posts on this exact topic.
By the way - THANK YOU for asking about this before doing it - so many people just accept what the various manufacturers claim and slap on intake kits and then have problems, or in some cases don't get any warning lights on the dash - we've seen 19:1 lean not throw a code on some of the 5.4 3Vs during a full-throttle dyno pull, and that is scary.
And: https://www.f150online.com/forums/3542560-post9.html
More, from Lord Suzook: https://www.f150online.com/forums/3542531-post8.html
Can't tell without a wideband - period.
MGD
Originally Posted by VMP Tuning
We can tune for different cold air intakes on 05+ Mustangs and 04+ F150s. Any aftermarket intake that flows well and puts the slot-style MAF sensor into a larger less restrictive housing is going to REQUIRE a tune for the vehicle to run properly. Intakes that do not require a tune are often just as restrictive as stock and do not result in large power gains.
Originally Posted by Troyer Performance
Hang on there - no, you CANNOT just put any intake kit on the 2004 & newer F-150's with the 5.4 3-valve motor, as virtually ALL the CAI's on the market for those vehicles WILL in fact cause the engine to go *drastically and dangerously* lean. It's not like the 2-valve & 4-valve modular motors, the 3V's have a different MAS system and it's far more unforgiving of changes made to the air intake tract. What Bartak1 very kindly responded with is accurate info for the 1997-2003 trucks, but not for the 2004 & up 5.4 3V motors.
We've gone over all of this many times before, so you can use the SEARCH feature here to retrieve & read any of our hundreds of previous posts on this exact topic.
By the way - THANK YOU for asking about this before doing it - so many people just accept what the various manufacturers claim and slap on intake kits and then have problems, or in some cases don't get any warning lights on the dash - we've seen 19:1 lean not throw a code on some of the 5.4 3Vs during a full-throttle dyno pull, and that is scary.
And: https://www.f150online.com/forums/3542560-post9.html
More, from Lord Suzook: https://www.f150online.com/forums/3542531-post8.html
Can't tell without a wideband - period.
MGD
Last edited by MGDfan; 03-08-2012 at 08:30 AM. Reason: more pitchers, lol
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If it was a scanner to check for codes, that does nothing to check for a lean condition. You obviously want to ignore the warnings or don't believe we know what we are talking about. Thats fine, it is possible that yours will not be running lean. On the otherhand, you could be dealing it a slow, silent early death. A CAI does so little for performance, no way I would risk it without a tune written for it. Tuners don't cost that much and deliver far more performance than a CAI possibly can.
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Here - show him this and say 'Hi' to him for me - then put him on the phone - I wanna talk to him
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So - I posted all those links for nothing? Unbelievable ...
Originally Posted by VMP
Small changes in the way the mass air sensor and tubing around it is aligned may result in major changes in how the mass air sensor measures the air entering the engine. On Fords, the mass air sensor is used to determine fueling, its also used to determine load. Spark timing is calculated based on load. If your mass air transfer function is shifted lean, your car will be too lean and it will have too much timing, which is a very bad combination.
Yer totally on yer own now buckwheat, you obviously don't really care about yer truck enough, so WHY SHOULD WE?
Enjoy yer Bromance with yer neighbour
Last edited by MGDfan; 03-16-2012 at 09:20 AM.
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