Zaino... whats the big fuss
#17
Originally posted by 01 XLT Sport
I can put three coats of Zaino on in about 2 hours or so, that is using the ZFX, and doing it by hand, no buffer.
I can put three coats of Zaino on in about 2 hours or so, that is using the ZFX, and doing it by hand, no buffer.
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Hmm, I was speaking of radial scratches from washing, etc. I tend to call them swirl marks sometimes. Forgive me if you will I'm only home a few months a year, and car wash brushes can be unkind, even after being gone over with the high pressure rinse.
Rockpick, Why you picking on me? I'm on your side, remember??? I admire your elbow grease, and attention to detail. I was just sanding out imperfections with 2000 grit, and polishing them out by hand with (GASP) 3M products. That was my morning.,,,,98
Rockpick, Why you picking on me? I'm on your side, remember??? I admire your elbow grease, and attention to detail. I was just sanding out imperfections with 2000 grit, and polishing them out by hand with (GASP) 3M products. That was my morning.,,,,98
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#20
Originally posted by 98SCREAMER
Rockpick, Why you picking on me? I'm on your side, remember??? I admire your elbow grease, and attention to detail. I was just sanding out imperfections with 2000 grit, and polishing them out by hand with (GASP) 3M products. That was my morning.,,,,98
Rockpick, Why you picking on me? I'm on your side, remember??? I admire your elbow grease, and attention to detail. I was just sanding out imperfections with 2000 grit, and polishing them out by hand with (GASP) 3M products. That was my morning.,,,,98
I have a pack of 2000 grit and 1500 grit in my garage too. And, like you, I have a bottle or two that bears 3M.
I'll leave you alone now man. Just take that damn target off of your back and you'll be okay. LOL!
RP
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#22
01 and Josh,
I understand where you are coming from, but SEEING is believing. Im not gonna buy it unless I can see it first. Pics are cool but seeing it first hand is even better.
I guess the whole multi step deal Im referring to is all of the procucts. I mean look at there website!
Z1 through 18... LOL
Im used to washings and some carnuba wax, and thats it for me. None of this clay bar then do this then do that... A good cleaner wax and or Dawn works for me every once in awhle too. And I dont have to spend all that extra cash on Zaino products.
Rockpick - Im with you brother. Elbow grease, attention to detail, and no Zaino
I understand where you are coming from, but SEEING is believing. Im not gonna buy it unless I can see it first. Pics are cool but seeing it first hand is even better.
I guess the whole multi step deal Im referring to is all of the procucts. I mean look at there website!
Z1 through 18... LOL
Im used to washings and some carnuba wax, and thats it for me. None of this clay bar then do this then do that... A good cleaner wax and or Dawn works for me every once in awhle too. And I dont have to spend all that extra cash on Zaino products.
Rockpick - Im with you brother. Elbow grease, attention to detail, and no Zaino
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Jaguar:
I can understand what you’re saying by needing to see it to believe it. I think many others here or in other threads have said and I will say as well, there are some really good products out there. Some you may find better then Zaino especially if you’re not a wuss like me in not wanting to use a buffer.
I got to a point I didn’t like the shine I was getting with store bought brands, like Auto Zone, Wal-Mart etc. Also I could not find a detailer anywhere that could manage to do the job correctly. In other words my trucks or cars would look great when I picked them up but after the first or second wash I could see the wax that got on the plastic trim etc.
So I started asking questions, and visiting forums like this and some other detailer type forums. There were a lot of good reviews about the Zaino, as well as some other products but at the time what stood out about the Zaino was you did not have to use a buffer to get this “awesome shine” and then the fact that it lasted much, much longer then anything store bought.
So I went and bought some Zaino. I don’t remember all what I got the first time but it was around $50 -$60. I figured at least I would try it and I would be in control and insure nothing got on the plastic. That’s another thing I forgot to mention. In many of the reviews they mentioned that if you did get Zaino on plastic it did NOT stain so I though what the hell, sounds like something to try, if it works great, if not I am out the money but will never buy it again.
Is Zaino the absolute best on the market? For me it is, for how I use it, for the look I want. However, it may not be the best for you, or RockPick or others. It really comes down to each their own.
I can understand what you’re saying by needing to see it to believe it. I think many others here or in other threads have said and I will say as well, there are some really good products out there. Some you may find better then Zaino especially if you’re not a wuss like me in not wanting to use a buffer.
I got to a point I didn’t like the shine I was getting with store bought brands, like Auto Zone, Wal-Mart etc. Also I could not find a detailer anywhere that could manage to do the job correctly. In other words my trucks or cars would look great when I picked them up but after the first or second wash I could see the wax that got on the plastic trim etc.
So I started asking questions, and visiting forums like this and some other detailer type forums. There were a lot of good reviews about the Zaino, as well as some other products but at the time what stood out about the Zaino was you did not have to use a buffer to get this “awesome shine” and then the fact that it lasted much, much longer then anything store bought.
So I went and bought some Zaino. I don’t remember all what I got the first time but it was around $50 -$60. I figured at least I would try it and I would be in control and insure nothing got on the plastic. That’s another thing I forgot to mention. In many of the reviews they mentioned that if you did get Zaino on plastic it did NOT stain so I though what the hell, sounds like something to try, if it works great, if not I am out the money but will never buy it again.
Is Zaino the absolute best on the market? For me it is, for how I use it, for the look I want. However, it may not be the best for you, or RockPick or others. It really comes down to each their own.
#27
Originally posted by 01 XLT Sport
I have seen pictures of, I think it is BigDeal’s truck and it too looks awesome and I believe he uses Meguires.
I have seen pictures of, I think it is BigDeal’s truck and it too looks awesome and I believe he uses Meguires.
Jag.... You know, many of these posts are right and I'd agree wholeheartedly with them. Paint upkeep and protection should be viewed as a multi stage process regardless of the products used if you want the best shine/ depth possible. As an example, a typical detail on my truck using my Meguiars products would entail:
1 - A good wash with Gold Class Car Wash
2 - Clay bar and re-wash
3 - Medallion Paint Cleaner or # 9 Swirl Remover (rotary buffer applied)
4 - Two coats of #26 Carnuba Wax (rotary buffer applied)
5 - Finish up with Final Inspection wipe down
If I was headed to a car show, I'd add another step between 3 and 4 above to apply a coat of #7 Show Car Glaze to add additional depth.
I guess it's all in how dedicated (or compulsive) you are. Nothing makes me happier than to have someone come up to me at a car show and ask if my truck is brand new (it's an '01 with 25K miles that I drive daily). The look on their face when I answer their question makes the time spent totally worth it!
Take care.
-Mike-
#28
Originally posted by BigDeal
Thanks for the compliments there 01! You're right, my truck gets the Meguiars Professional line of products. May try something else in the future, but for now, I'm pleased with the results I'm getting.
Jag.... You know, many of these posts are right and I'd agree wholeheartedly with them. Paint upkeep and protection should be viewed as a multi stage process regardless of the products used if you want the best shine/ depth possible. As an example, a typical detail on my truck using my Meguiars products would entail:
1 - A good wash with Gold Class Car Wash
2 - Clay bar and re-wash
3 - Medallion Paint Cleaner or # 9 Swirl Remover (rotary buffer applied)
4 - Two coats of #26 Carnuba Wax (rotary buffer applied)
5 - Finish up with Final Inspection wipe down
If I was headed to a car show, I'd add another step between 3 and 4 above to apply a coat of #7 Show Car Glaze to add additional depth.
I guess it's all in how dedicated (or compulsive) you are. Nothing makes me happier than to have someone come up to me at a car show and ask if my truck is brand new (it's an '01 with 25K miles that I drive daily). The look on their face when I answer their question makes the time spent totally worth it!
Take care.
-Mike-
Thanks for the compliments there 01! You're right, my truck gets the Meguiars Professional line of products. May try something else in the future, but for now, I'm pleased with the results I'm getting.
Jag.... You know, many of these posts are right and I'd agree wholeheartedly with them. Paint upkeep and protection should be viewed as a multi stage process regardless of the products used if you want the best shine/ depth possible. As an example, a typical detail on my truck using my Meguiars products would entail:
1 - A good wash with Gold Class Car Wash
2 - Clay bar and re-wash
3 - Medallion Paint Cleaner or # 9 Swirl Remover (rotary buffer applied)
4 - Two coats of #26 Carnuba Wax (rotary buffer applied)
5 - Finish up with Final Inspection wipe down
If I was headed to a car show, I'd add another step between 3 and 4 above to apply a coat of #7 Show Car Glaze to add additional depth.
I guess it's all in how dedicated (or compulsive) you are. Nothing makes me happier than to have someone come up to me at a car show and ask if my truck is brand new (it's an '01 with 25K miles that I drive daily). The look on their face when I answer their question makes the time spent totally worth it!
Take care.
-Mike-
I agree with you on your steps there Mike less the Medallion Paint Cleaner. I don't think you're going to get as good of a result with that product verses the 2.0 (#9) Swirl Remover. I say this from experience. I just don't care that much for the paint cleaner. Seemed to smear alot and didn't really buff out nice. The #9, on the other hand, is an excellent product and nearly everyone here has used or uses it as a polish....
I'm the same way with the questions like that... "Is that new...". Nope, it's an 01 with 21K and is a daily driver. Like you, I love the stunned look. Makes it worth every last second that I've spent on it. Nothing makes you feel better.
RP
#30
Originally posted by RockPick
I agree with you on your steps there Mike less the Medallion Paint Cleaner. I don't think you're going to get as good of a result with that product verses the 2.0 (#9) Swirl Remover. I say this from experience. I just don't care that much for the paint cleaner. Seemed to smear alot and didn't really buff out nice.
RP
I agree with you on your steps there Mike less the Medallion Paint Cleaner. I don't think you're going to get as good of a result with that product verses the 2.0 (#9) Swirl Remover. I say this from experience. I just don't care that much for the paint cleaner. Seemed to smear alot and didn't really buff out nice.
RP
I also use the #9 product, but just wanted to mention that I knew exactly what you were talking about with the Paint Cleaner.
Take care.
-Mike-
Last edited by BigDeal; 05-25-2003 at 07:41 AM.