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Old 08-21-2007 | 10:49 PM
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I was more interested in the swirl removing/hiding abilities by working by hand more then anything since I got stuck with a used Lightning after totaling my brand new one (out of production - used was my only option) and it had some major swirls and marring. I'm still not confident in myself enough to use a machine and was desperate to find something that could make me happy working by hand. I can vouch for his findings of his review that the AutoGlym Super Resin Polish does an admirable job at hiding swirls by hand (just look at his pics and compare to the others).
 
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Old 08-22-2007 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by f-150sport03
Wash (with 2 bucket method-- search for this)
Claybar
Meguiars 3 step Deep Crystal System
Tire shine

Total time: 2-4 hours, depending on how quick you work
Total cost: $6 for Gold Class wash, $10 for a good mitt
$15 for clay kit
$18 for the 3 step
$6 for a good tire shine (Endurance Gloss price)

Very easy, follow directions on all labels, and you will be thoroughly impressed. Everything listed is availible at any auto parts store, WalMart, etc.

Dont forget befores and afters! Good Luck.
Is there anything wrong if I add the NXT Generation Liquid wax after doing step 3 (deep crystal system)? Thsi is what the reps at Meguiars recommended I just wanted to know if anyone else performed this. according to them my steps would go like this


Claybar
Meguiars 3 step Deep Crystal System
NXT Generation Liquid Wax
Tire shine
 
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Old 08-22-2007 | 01:13 PM
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Is there anything wrong if I add the NXT Generation Liquid wax after doing step 3 (deep crystal system)?

Meguiars 3 step Deep Crystal System Step 1 and 2
NXT Generation Liquid Wax
Meguiars 3 step DC Sys. step 3
Yep. Do the NXT first, then you will be fine. Wait 12 hours before adding the step 3. (Use a QD spray to remove dust before you do, though)

The NXT is a polymer sealant, and thus, needs time to cure, and since it has some light (really light) abrasives and some fillers and detergents, it needs to be before the step 3, otherwise it will not bond properly. So-- If you do as I bolded above, you will be fine. And you will enjoy a longer lasting protection span.
 
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Old 08-22-2007 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by f-150sport03
Yep. Do the NXT first, then you will be fine. Wait 12 hours before adding the step 3. (Use a QD spray to remove dust before you do, though)

The NXT is a polymer sealant, and thus, needs time to cure, and since it has some light (really light) abrasives and some fillers and detergents, it needs to be before the step 3, otherwise it will not bond properly. So-- If you do as I bolded above, you will be fine. And you will enjoy a longer lasting protection span.
Thanks but for some reason the guys at Meguiars told me to do

clay
Deep Crystal cleaner (step)
Then add the NXT Gen Wax.

They said that the NXT Gen wax is a wax and polisher.
 
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Old 08-22-2007 | 01:37 PM
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Thanks but for some reason the guys at Meguiars told me to do

clay
Deep Crystal cleaner (step)
Then add the NXT Gen Wax.

They said that the NXT Gen wax is a wax and polisher.
Ahhh... You are only doign step 1, then straight to NXT. Thats fine, too. But I think you will find better results by doing steps 1 and 2, then NXT, wait 12 hours, QD spray to remove dust, then step 3. It will make a nice wet, deep shine. Very beautiful.

But yes, your system will work, too. How much time were you planning on spending on it? Money?
 
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Old 08-22-2007 | 01:55 PM
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I'm actually going to play devil's advocate here...

Step #2 in the DC system -- when using with NXT -- really doesn't yield a heck of a lot. Basically, the NXT (because of the mild cleaners) will help to actually strip off some of the trade polishing oils and such that will be left behind by the #2.

In short, I'm going to side with your Meg's helpdesk guy (maybe Jose?) as, generally speaking, they're right.

While it wouldn't hurt to do the #2 DC step, it's not really going to help a great deal either.

If it were mine, I'd forgo the #2 step (as all it is is a 'add some pop' step) and top the NXT with the #3 DC (wax) step to add depth and clarity to the NXT.... that's just me though.
 
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Old 08-22-2007 | 02:30 PM
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I'm actually going to play devil's advocate here...

Step #2 in the DC system -- when using with NXT -- really doesn't yield a heck of a lot. Basically, the NXT (because of the mild cleaners) will help to actually strip off some of the trade polishing oils and such that will be left behind by the #2.

In short, I'm going to side with your Meg's helpdesk guy (maybe Jose?) as, generally speaking, they're right.

While it wouldn't hurt to do the #2 DC step, it's not really going to help a great deal either.

If it were mine, I'd forgo the #2 step (as all it is is a 'add some pop' step) and top the NXT with the #3 DC (wax) step to add depth and clarity to the NXT.... that's just me though.
smarty pants...

But yeah- now that I rebooted my brain, RP is (of course) right...

I usually go ahead and polish anyways because in addition to the little bit of pop, it replaces some of the natural oild in the paint (or so they say), and makes it happier... It is, after all, a 20 minutes or less process to do... May as well (Especially if you have a bunch sitting around...)
 
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Old 08-22-2007 | 02:40 PM
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If I follow the Meguiars tech, how long should I leave these products on the truck. How long for Step 1 Deep Crystal and the Wax NXT Generation.
 
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Old 08-22-2007 | 04:30 PM
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If I follow the Meguiars tech, how long should I leave these products on the truck. How long for Step 1 Deep Crystal and the Wax NXT Generation.
Its on the bottle, but...

Remove step 1 before it dries.
Search the finger swipe test-- thats how you know when to remove NXT

Other than that, unless we convince you to do an all out detail before then, reapply NXT every 3 months or so.
 




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