Questions on detail this weekend
#31
Originally Posted by s2krn
I had a hard time following your last post near the end. Started to ramble a little and "that that" threw me for a loop. I agree to disagree. It is obvious that neither of us is going to convince the other. If anyone wants to chime in and say the pics of the cars were terrible please do so. Not sure where all the threats come from? It would be absolutely devastating if your next post were not so nice. That worked back in middle school but I think we are all adults on here. It really reminds me of high school. Please don't hurt my feelings I may not sleep well tonight.
You are well on your way to getting banned here.
#32
Originally Posted by RollingRock
You're an adult? Damn, I pegged you as teen who got a few photos of your mom's car.
You are well on your way to getting banned here.
You are well on your way to getting banned here.
Not once have you stated an experience you had with the product I mentioned. Surely they scratched up your vehicle or were detrimental in some way for you to be so opposed to them. I'm sure your products work wonderfully for you; I've never used them. That's why I never said anytyhing negative about the products you choose to work with.
I joined the forum to educate myself on my new/used truck (my wife's truck actually: not my mother's) and offered a few points for someone who asked a question. Wether or not you agree with it is pointless. This is a public forum; you're not going to agree with everyone. Noone has all the answers no matter how much they may try to convince you otherwise.
I've agreed to disagree... Let it go. You don't have to put stern posts or try to insult someone whom you know nothing about.
Last edited by s2krn; 11-03-2007 at 01:50 AM.
#33
S2KRN: You aren't troberts by chance are you? You sound like him...
Anyway, your shots are in the shade. This means absolutely nothing. So, I dredged up a shot of my truck when it had micromarring all to hell. I took the shot to prove a point a couple of months ago. Now, if you look at the first image, you will see NO swirls, but the second photo will show you just how bad the swirls were. DISCLAIMER: The micromarring was caused (I think) by turnout gear being dragged across the paint at the Fire Department. People do this routinely, even on other peoples trucks. SO, it is not my wash technique.
The one Rolling Rock posted of my hood with me working on it is a shot we can appreciate. That one has lighting close up and at the poper angle to prove the lack of swirls (and the presence of FMC's horrible orange peel)
Now, show us a pic that is close up that has lighting and an appropriate angle so as to reveal everything.
Since I have to go to work, I will stop for this morning, but expect another post soon. Gip and RR: I agree 110% with you guys.
Anyway, your shots are in the shade. This means absolutely nothing. So, I dredged up a shot of my truck when it had micromarring all to hell. I took the shot to prove a point a couple of months ago. Now, if you look at the first image, you will see NO swirls, but the second photo will show you just how bad the swirls were. DISCLAIMER: The micromarring was caused (I think) by turnout gear being dragged across the paint at the Fire Department. People do this routinely, even on other peoples trucks. SO, it is not my wash technique.
The one Rolling Rock posted of my hood with me working on it is a shot we can appreciate. That one has lighting close up and at the poper angle to prove the lack of swirls (and the presence of FMC's horrible orange peel)
Now, show us a pic that is close up that has lighting and an appropriate angle so as to reveal everything.
Since I have to go to work, I will stop for this morning, but expect another post soon. Gip and RR: I agree 110% with you guys.
#34
Wow, got a little off topic
I just spent 20 mins reading all the posts I had missed since the last time I was here. Just so everyone knows I do use microfiber towels, the mothers and meguires kind. I'm sure you will see them in the pictures later.
Anyways, its a beautiful day here (high 70's for the high) and Im heading home from work. Cup of coffee and some dawn dish detergent and Ill be started on the truck.
Ill post pictures in a new thread later today.
Anyways, its a beautiful day here (high 70's for the high) and Im heading home from work. Cup of coffee and some dawn dish detergent and Ill be started on the truck.
Ill post pictures in a new thread later today.
#35
Originally Posted by s2krn
Everyone is making it so easy... It seems some folks have a little trouble reading posts. I never said anything about "washing off swirls". If you read the post I stated after washing and waxing. Thanks for your input though.
I would also be interested in knowing what products you are using when washing and waxing.
Originally Posted by s2krn
You have brought to my attention now that I'm not worthy of using a "good" micro fiber towel. Did you write the consumer reports article on micro fiber towels? Do you know what brand the towels are or do you just assume they aren't any good. As I've stated before I have had excellent results using these towels. I'm glad your towels work for you as well as mine work for me.
Since when is CR the expert on anything? I don’t need to know the brand you are using .. if they aren’t DF or Pak Shak, they are not as good. How do I know that? Many years of experience while working on thousands of cars, all the while trying almost every towel I can get my hands on, combined with the knowledge gleaned from discussing this subject with some of the best detailers in the world. Why? Because I don’t like wasting money, and when you have 500+ towels, saving even $0.50 a towel is a big deal.
The fact that you are still arguing this point proves that you don’t have first hand knowledge of the towels I am talking about. The one’s you are using may be a decent cheap towel .. but there is a huge difference between them and the top of the line stuff. The cheaper ones will scratch. Even if the scratches can be filled later.. why induce them?
Originally Posted by s2krn
Let me reiterate another point; who cares if the swirls are there IF YOU CAN'T SEE THEM? Did you actually write that with a straight face. Maybe it's all one big swirl and that's why I can't see any swirls after cleaning my car. I'm sure the honda does have swirls now bc I don't own it anymore. Just to give you something else to construe if you like; I actually drive a 5 year old Mitsubishin now. It has invisible swirls too.
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#36
Originally Posted by f-150sport03
S2KRN: You aren't troberts by chance are you? You sound like him....
I may not always agree with the approach troberts takes (too agressive for me at times).. but you can't argue with the look of his finished products ..
just my opinion.
#37
Originally Posted by 05FX4SCW
I just spent 20 mins reading all the posts I had missed since the last time I was here. Just so everyone knows I do use microfiber towels, the mothers and meguires kind. I'm sure you will see them in the pictures later.
Anyways, its a beautiful day here (high 70's for the high) and Im heading home from work. Cup of coffee and some dawn dish detergent and Ill be started on the truck.
Ill post pictures in a new thread later today.
Anyways, its a beautiful day here (high 70's for the high) and Im heading home from work. Cup of coffee and some dawn dish detergent and Ill be started on the truck.
Ill post pictures in a new thread later today.
wish you wouldn't use the Dawn .. but that is more of a personal preference.
nothing wrong with the Meguiar's towels .. I have a ton of them ..
What carnauba are you going to finish with??
#38
Nice to wake up this morning and see everyone has calmed down a little. As I've posted several times in this forum; surely the towels of you choice work well for you. My towels of choice work great for me as well. Not one of you has said you used my MF towel of choice from Sams and had bad results. Don't assume they are a poor quality towel and possibly prevent someone reading posts to avoid them just bc you wouldn't use them. Surely they are not as high quality as you towel, but it doesn't mean it is not a good product. If for some reason they totally marr up someones paint then they can continue reading on here and learn how to fix it. Some on this post are doing exactly what they are accusing me of... giving bad information. Unless you have specifically used this product a simple post on what you like is sufficient. In another post I've listed my choice of waxing products. Mequiar's is my product of choice; more specifically the 3 step process with step 3 substituted with Mequiars Gold Class. Good morning to all... I guess closer to afternoon, but who's counting.
#39
Originally Posted by s2krn
Not one of you has said you used my MF towel of choice from Sams and had bad results.
Don't assume they are a poor quality towel and possibly prevent someone reading posts to avoid them just bc you wouldn't use them.
If for some reason they totally marr up someones paint then they can continue reading on here and learn how to fix it.
Some on this post are doing exactly what they are accusing me of... giving bad information.
Unless you have specifically used this product a simple post on what you like is sufficient.
In another post I've listed my choice of waxing products. Mequiar's is my product of choice; more specifically the 3 step process with step 3 substituted with Mequiars Gold Class.
Gip-- the reason why I thought that this troll was TRoberts is in his argumentative nature. Also, I figured since we dogpiled TRoberts for being overly aggressive, this guy might have been trying the other end of the spectrum. BUT-- I went back and read over a few of the other guy's posts and decided that the writing style was different. Also, TRoberts had this thing about people taking shade pictures, and this guy has several. SO... I guess you are right... Also, HOLY CRAP!!! 500+ towels??!! That's a BUNCH...
#40
Originally Posted by s2krn
I'd say we're both well on our way to getting banned then.
Originally Posted by s2krn
Not once have you stated an experience you had with the product I mentioned.
Originally Posted by RollingRock
Back when I thought I knew what I was doing and was limited on funds yes I used cheap MF towels
I joined the forum to educate myself on my new/used truck (my wife's truck actually: not my mother's) and offered a few points for someone who asked a question.
Wether or not you agree with it is pointless. This is a public forum; you're not going to agree with everyone. Noone has all the answers no matter how much they may try to convince you otherwise.
I've agreed to disagree... Let it go.
You don't have to put stern posts or try to insult someone whom you know nothing about.
I am sick and tired of putting up with this crap. At least do us all a favor and take a day off of posting...
#41
All this hostility again. And I thought we were so close to being friends. Well at least friendly... The part about acting like a freshman really cut me deep; though it did bring back some fond memories of my freshman year at LSU. Good game coming on soon by the way, LSU vs Alabama. Anyway, please pick my post apart again to help me learn. My waxing products of choice are Meguiars; never said step one and two were wax although Meguiars does have what they call a "cleaner wax". I will sometimes use Meguiars Professional series wax; comes in a tan colored bottle, and I like the results from that as well. Wen I find something I have good results with I stick with it. Meguiars has a great line of products and I choose to not go searching for products to replace the ones I have success with. Luckily I have the luxury of keeping my car garaged most of the time. Don't drive it in the rain or ice or drive it any where I have to worry about letting it sit. Makes it easier to keep it clean.
#42
Originally Posted by s2krn
All this hostility again. And I thought we were so close to being friends. Well at least friendly... The part about acting like a freshman really cut me deep; though it did bring back some fond memories of my freshman year at LSU. Good game coming on soon by the way, LSU vs Alabama. Anyway, please pick my post apart again to help me learn. My waxing products of choice are Meguiars; never said step one and two were wax although Meguiars does have what they call a "cleaner wax". I will sometimes use Meguiars Professional series wax; comes in a tan colored bottle, and I like the results from that as well. Wen I find something I have good results with I stick with it. Meguiars has a great line of products and I choose to not go searching for products to replace the ones I have success with. Luckily I have the luxury of keeping my car garaged most of the time. Don't drive it in the rain or ice or drive it any where I have to worry about letting it sit. Makes it easier to keep it clean.
Well, you never mentioned the other steps you did until the post I picked apart (most recent one), so since you process was previously described as "wash and wax", one could only guess that you meant that step 1 and 2 were wax. You need to mention these things.
Yes, I know aout the cleaner wax, but that falls into a bit of a different category.
Also, give the number of the wax you use. Is it #26? #21 Syn. Sealant? There are a LOT of waxes that Meg.s has...
I dont disagree about sticking with Megs. I love their stuff, and will use mostly their stuff because I cant afford PB stuff.
... I am going to finish checking the other threads now...
#43
I believe the Megs Prof is #26, but I would have to get up from the LSU game to check and that's not going to happen. For me price isn't the deciding factor. I could buy more expensive waxes and cleaning products, but when I find good results I stick with it. Oh and to point something out you made it through an entire post without calling me a troll, ***, freshman... i forget them all. Anyway, I've found people tend to consider points of view more when they're aren't being demeaned, belittled, or criticized. You have to remember this is a forum and not everyone is going to agree on here.
#44
Originally Posted by s2krn
I believe the Megs Prof is #26,
I could buy more expensive waxes and cleaning products, but when I find good results I stick with it.
Oh and to point something out you made it through an entire post without calling me a troll, ***, freshman... i forget them all.
Anyway, I've found people tend to consider points of view more when they're aren't being demeaned, belittled, or criticized.
You have to remember this is a forum and not everyone is going to agree on here.
Anyway... Can we not continue this on this thread? It has gone SO far OT (I know, I contributed to just under half of it, but so did you... sharing blame here), that I think it is getting confusing. I think you are beginning to see that none of us are going to budge on this, and I dont think you are either.
Since the products you use seem OK (I have used all of them and more), just mention those, and dont mention the MF stuff, and I think it will be better for you... just a friendly thought.
Olive branch?