NASTY swirl marks in my black tailgate

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Old 06-11-2009 | 05:17 PM
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Exclamation NASTY swirl marks in my black tailgate

They are in my tailgate mostly with a few along the passenger side of the bed. I have had them in there for quite awhile when the dealer decided they would be nice and buff it out for me....

They look like they are in the clear coat and appear 3D when looking at them in the sun, they "move" and change how they appear when walking past them. They also look more like "lines" then how you would think what a swirl mark looks like. Also they only appear when the truck is in direct sun light.



I have done turtle wax clay bar, wax, and polish but they are still in there.


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I am going to attempt to get some pics if the sun comes out today.


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Old 06-11-2009 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by blackjack8900
They are in my tailgate mostly with a few along the passenger side of the bed. I have had them in there for quite awhile when the dealer decided they would be nice and buff it out for me....

They look like they are in the clear coat and appear 3D when looking at them in the sun, they "move" and change how they appear when walking past them. They also look more like "lines" then how you would think what a swirl mark looks like. Also they only appear when the truck is in direct sun light.



I have done turtle wax clay bar, wax, and polish but they are still in there.


Any tips?


I am going to attempt to get some pics if the sun comes out today.


Thanks
Need picks but net is, you will NOT get this done by hand. (well ...you could but your arms will fall off)

Post some photos and we'll go from there.


Does it look this this by chance?

 
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Old 06-11-2009 | 08:33 PM
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Sounds like dealer installed holograms.
 
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Old 06-11-2009 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RollingRock
Need picks but net is, you will NOT get this done by hand. (well ...you could but your arms will fall off)

Post some photos and we'll go from there.


Does it look this this by chance?

Nope not really, Mine are all vertical. And they look more like a line that is swirled, not actual circular marks. The paint when in the shade looks excellent. Very shiny and smooth. It just this damn mark in it....

I was looking at trucks the other day and noticed two new 09's had these same marks but all over teh hood.

Originally Posted by esf
Sounds like dealer installed holograms.
Yea, that's what it looks like.


Going to try to grab some pics right now.
 

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Old 06-11-2009 | 09:11 PM
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Sun was getting low so this is the best I got right now.






Looking the other way they are gone.....



I actually found two more on the drivers side bed....under the 4x4 sticker and right above the wheel well.



I know it's kind of dirty so they might be hard to see
 
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Old 06-11-2009 | 10:26 PM
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ya those are called holograms.

need to be buffed out
 
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Old 06-11-2009 | 10:26 PM
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Well it's hard to tell in those pictures because of how dirty the truck is but I'm pretty sure there is hologramming there. Does it look something like these...





I know others have pictures that REALLY show hologramming but this is all I have as an example. They will have to be polished out. You can do it by hand but you'll regret it. I'd pick up a machine like the PC 7424. There are a lot of vendors that have good package deals on them. I tend to do most of my business with Justin at Obsessive Detail. He carries the 4 inch pads which work great with the 7424. He also carries the 5.5 inch pads which are a decent compromise between the 4 inch and the 6.5 inch (which are generally too big to be used with the 7424 but will work.) Justin also carries the Optimum line of products. I haven't gotten around to using the polishes yet as I just haven't had the time but they're suposed to work well.
 

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Old 06-11-2009 | 11:09 PM
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What ESF said X2...

Pretty easy to fix, your paint isnt that bad...black is fun to work on..

 

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Old 06-12-2009 | 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by RollingRock
What ESF said X2...

Pretty easy to fix, your paint isnt that bad...black is fun to work on..

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Old 06-12-2009 | 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by esf
Well it's hard to tell in those pictures because of how dirty the truck is but I'm pretty sure there is hologramming there. Does it look something like these...



yep that's what they look like. I know the dealer already had it once to "fix it" because I noticed them in there right away when I bought it (going on 3 years in Aug.) But the only thing they did was remove a few and add a bunch more.

Here is one of the tail gate....some of it is just the sun as it was getting low but the tailgate is by far the worst. I will try to get a better shot when the sun is not so low.

 

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Old 06-12-2009 | 08:04 AM
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meguiars 105 then 205 then some 21!
 
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Old 06-12-2009 | 08:55 PM
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yep that's what they look like. I know the dealer already had it once to "fix it" because I noticed them in there right away when I bought it (going on 3 years in Aug.) But the only thing they did was remove a few and add a bunch more.

Here is one of the tail gate....some of it is just the sun as it was getting low but the tailgate is by far the worst. I will try to get a better shot when the sun is not so low.

if you are just trying to fix the holograms and that is all that's there, you don't need the 105, the 205 will polish that out no problem...so will PB New SSR1 or SSR 2.5 (Polish pad only)

If you have other correction to do, then yes, hit it with 105, then 205...enjoy.

Good pics...but should be easy to fix.

RR

EDIT, I do see some spider webbing...if you wanted to one step it, a few passes with 205 would do it...but if not, you would have to step it up to 105...just remember, 105 is a Compound and a little of that product goes a long way.
 

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Old 06-13-2009 | 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by RollingRock
if you are just trying to fix the holograms and that is all that's there, you don't need the 105, the 205 will polish that out no problem...so will PB New SSR1 or SSR 2.5 (Polish pad only)

If you have other correction to do, then yes, hit it with 105, then 205...enjoy.

Good pics...but should be easy to fix.

RR

EDIT, I do see some spider webbing...if you wanted to one step it, a few passes with 205 would do it...but if not, you would have to step it up to 105...just remember, 105 is a Compound and a little of that product goes a long way.
Do you think by hand will do?
 
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Old 06-13-2009 | 02:17 AM
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Do you think by hand will do?
Honestly? No. Sorry to say that.

For a machine, a few passes with Megs 80 or 205 would do the job...but you really do need a PC/DA/Flex in order to get it done.
 
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Old 06-13-2009 | 02:22 AM
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What's the difference between M80 and M205?

Whats the best way to remove either one after application?

Just wipe with a MF or use a touch of Final Step "34"?

Sorry for the Thread Jack.
 



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