Orange peel question
#16
While I've mentioned I personally would never ever attempt it at my skill level, here's proof that wet sanding the orage out on a factory paint job can be done. Not to kick a dead horse, but please take note this cat know's what he's doing; this was not some weekend warrior posting up his project from the weekend! This has to be the biggest success story of such out there...not to mention the most beautiful paint job I've ever seen! A testament that the Ford orange peel is in the surface...
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...da-system.html
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/...da-system.html
#17
It's an extremely fine line. Wool is downright dangerous if you don't know what you're doing and heat is not your friend either. I'd personally argue heat is more dangerous than wool. Look at the techlnology going into foam pads to help them run as cool as possible! With the foam technology out there, wool is only needed for the worst of correction jobs...IMO. The proble with novice and beginner detailers and/or folks wanting to tackle their own paint correction jobs is they want to jump straight to the most aggressive stuff out there; using the most aggressive product on the most aggressive pad is NOT where you start.
Last edited by Galaxy; 07-15-2013 at 02:37 AM.
#18
#19
as an fyi......
an old school technique that can reduce the orange peel effect (and other minor imperfections)....is to give the paint a bath in ice water.....
This also typically works on fresh paint but, it in essence makes the paint shrink, reducing the size of "imperfections"...again, this is very old school back from the days of lacquer but I have used this on urethanes & laytex.
an old school technique that can reduce the orange peel effect (and other minor imperfections)....is to give the paint a bath in ice water.....
This also typically works on fresh paint but, it in essence makes the paint shrink, reducing the size of "imperfections"...again, this is very old school back from the days of lacquer but I have used this on urethanes & laytex.
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#21
Although I will not argue that the results shared in that post are quite nice, I doubt very much I would ever do that to one of my own (or even a customer) vehicle. Why? I don't care what he says, but there was simply way too much clearcoat removed during the process. Yes, he did state how much clear he thought he was removing, but with orange peel, it's very tough to get a true reading of paint thickness. And as bad as the factory paint was, it was applied at a relatively even thickness. After all of the sanding and polishing, what do you think that car has now?
Clint Eastwood (as Dirty Harry) probably summed it up best when he said, "So kid, you feeling lucky?"
Clint Eastwood (as Dirty Harry) probably summed it up best when he said, "So kid, you feeling lucky?"
#22
Although I will not argue that the results shared in that post are quite nice, I doubt very much I would ever do that to one of my own (or even a customer) vehicle. Why? I don't care what he says, but there was simply way too much clearcoat removed during the process. Yes, he did state how much clear he thought he was removing, but with orange peel, it's very tough to get a true reading of paint thickness. And as bad as the factory paint was, it was applied at a relatively even thickness. After all of the sanding and polishing, what do you think that car has now?
Clint Eastwood (as Dirty Harry) probably summed it up best when he said, "So kid, you feeling lucky?"
Clint Eastwood (as Dirty Harry) probably summed it up best when he said, "So kid, you feeling lucky?"
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- Not shocking for the A site, a lot of supposition and guessing going on over there.
Again how much ?
" just nipped off the peaks "
- How much is a "nip" again ? I could not find a conversion to mm for that
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You cannot fill in OP with more clear
- Need to sand down what is there to get the next coat to stick to it.
No matter how bad you might think it looks, the factory paint job is better than what any shop is going to do durability wise.
Guessing someone won't eat up the remainder of the clear is just that, guess work.
- Does not matter, he has his money and down the road he goes. When the owner or next owner finds out it will be too late.
Only takes 1 rock chip in one of the many thin sections to start a clear coat peel.
Seen it many times, the SIL's 2002 Mustang has a door that is still factory, and the clown that did the job, went to town to make it match the SS paint over match ground the snot out of it.
1 rock chip in it, now she has a peel about the size of a silver dollar, good bye Ford red, hello pink driver's door.
#26
Well, at least it was great looking for a little while.