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Old 09-01-2001, 10:37 PM
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Angry cracking paint

I have a black 1999 F150. About 9 months ago i noticed a couple of small circular patterned cracks starting. Today I have cracks in the paint across the entire hood. It has also spread to the doors (it is a regular cab - not extended) and to the posts behind the doors. Curiously it seemed to jump right over the front quarter panels. Is anyone else running into this? I have not talked to the dealer or a body shop yet to find out if this is a widespread problem or not. My truck is no longer under warranty (it is less than 3 years old, but has more than 36,000 miles) so i dont think this will be covered. I just thought that if this was a common problem i may have some leverage when talking to the dealer/body shop. I'm just frustrated because when i bought the truck i paid a bunch of money for paint protectant (whatever that was) and have hand washed and waxed it at least 3 - 4 times a month. Let me know if you are having or have had this problem and what the dealer or body shop told you. Thanks.
 
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Old 09-01-2001, 11:43 PM
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Unhappy What a bummer

Welcome,nealioh.

I love this site http://www.lemonaidcars.com

It sounds like acid rain, which is actually quite common. What the dealer should have done (I'm sure they saw the signs even if you didn't) is repaint the damaged areas and offer the truck at discount.

There is a precedence from a few years ago were BMW was repainting cars damaged by acid rain without telling their customers. A fella in, I believe S.Carolina had his recently purchased BMW detailed and the shop owner pointed out that the car had been repainted. Simply repainting this car had taken away $3000.00 from it's current value so he went to court and was awarded $50,000 and BMW now by law must disclose acid rain damage on any new car sold.

If you take it to the dealer where it was purchased they should be willing to go to bat for you with Ford to get the truck repainted. From research, I've found that Ford is generally willing to settle just abouut any issue if they see you are serious. Be aware that the 1st response will likely be "it's out of warranty". Be polite but firm. They are much more likely to help if they feel like you're a good guy.

Small Claims court is an option as well but I wouldn't worry about it coming to that.

Even if you never washed your truck the paint should las a lot longer than 3 years.

Good Luck
 
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My truck is the same way as yours, its also black but a ext. cab. I was going to talk to my dealer about it but I didn't. My truck is a 97. any hope from ford doing anything about it? probably not
 
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Old 09-06-2001, 11:21 PM
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I have a black std cab and had the same problem, I noticed it two days after I got the truck home from the dealer, When I took it back the guys at the body shop were very helpful and said the only way to fix it right was to repaint, they did a great job and 9 months later still no problems.
 
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Old 09-18-2001, 09:51 AM
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Me too!

I have the same problem, cracks all over the roof, hood, fenders, and doors. I have been to Ford, and they are so far going to cover at least $1000.00 of the damage (I'm going to try all of the dealers in town until I get the best deal). And, they are going to fix my door crack for free. Mine is a 98, with 83000 kilometers, (about 50000 miles), with no extended warranty.
 
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Old 09-26-2001, 10:39 PM
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Thumbs up good news for cracked paint sufferers

About my cracked paint and getting Ford to pay for it...........
My truck does not have an extended warranty (1999 with 50,000 miles) but here is what I was able to do and the steps I took to get it done:

1) I started with the body shop manager at the dealership where I bought the truck. He looked at the paint and I had him agree (verbally tell me) that he felt the cracked paint was a factory defect. I had him write an estimate right then to repair the damage. The estimate was $2600 to completely strip the entire truck to the metal and start over.

2) The body shop manager then talked to the Ford field rep about the situation. The Ford field rep of course turned down my claim. Reason: I was the second owner so they did not know what the original owner had done to it - he could have repainted it for all they knew.

3) I then talked to the salesguy that I bought the truck from. He was able to get me the name and phone number of the original owner. I talked to the previous owner and had him verify that nothing had been done to the original paint.

4) I then called the customer relationship manager at the dealership where the truck was purchased. He also turned my claim down saying that the Ford field rep had said the truck had been repainted and that the truck was out of warranty anyway. I let him know that I had talked to the original owner and that the original owner was prepared to sign a statement in front of a notary public that the truck had not been touched.

5) The customer relationship manager then said "let me call the field rep and see where his thoughts are on this" I also found it the right time to now mention what is called Ford "goodwill" money. This is money that Ford allows dealers to use for situations like this, but no one is going to tell you about it, you need to bring it up. Call it "goodwill" money and they will respond to that. This starts to show them that you have done your research and know what you are talking about.

6) The customer reationship manager called me back and said that the best they could do was the following (while letting me know that technically they did not have to do anything - making it seem like they were doing me a favor):

the estimate was $2600 to have the truck repainted. the dealership would kick in 10% ($260) bringing the total down to $2340. There was a maximum of $1500 in Ford "goodwill" money available - bringing the total I would have to pay down to $840. I let the customer relationship manager know that I needed to talk to my "lawyer" first before accepting anything. (there of course was no lawyer involved)

It is also important to note that I had decided before starting this whole process that if I had to pay up to $500, i was willing to do that. I was at this point at $840 so I only had $340 more to go.

7) The next day I called the customer service manager back and let him know that my "lawyer" did not find the offer acceptable - in fact my "lawyer" did not think that I should have to pay anything. I told him that even though my "lawyer" would not agree with me, I was willing to pay $340 instead of $840 just to be done with the whole deal.

8) The customer service manager countered with the following offer:
$2600 estimate minus $1500 Ford "goodwill" money equals $900. the dealership would then split the $900 with me, making my portion of the whole deal $450. ($50 less than I would have paid).

9) I accepted this offer on the grounds that the dealer would provide me with a loaner car for the 2 weeks needed to repaint the truck, put it in writing, sign it and fax it to me so that I could review it with my "lawyer". As a final kicker I also got them to throw in a free undercoat and paint protection. I had a signed offer agreement on my fax within 5 minutes.

The whole process took 4 days, 5 phone calls and a total of maybe 45 minutes on the phone. It went much smoother than I had anticipated. My feeling is that if had continued to push, I would have likely ended up getting it all done for free, but I could tell that going any further was going to start taking up more time than I had to give.

The key is to do a little research on the internet, check out a few sites dealing with Ford paint problems as well as read what others on this site and others have done to get results (or lack of results). Above all, do not take "no" for an answer. Ford is famous for stonewalling, be persistant and firm (but rational) and you should get results.

If you have any questions email me at nealioh@yahoo.com. I am here to help others like myself get the satisfaction that they are looking for. Good luck to all.
 



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