what is 1715 vs 9100
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what is 1715 vs 9100
I know the 1715 but what is the 9100, is it something from Mike only or from superchips. Thinking of buying a 1715 or is going to be not good compared to the 9100. Please explain the difference. I have air-aid, elect fans, tune up kit from Mike and duel exhaust. Thanks for replys
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06-08-2004, 03:14 PM
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Hi WTB,
All you need to do is just use the Search feature to retrieve & read any of the many posts we've already put up here about the 1715 versus the 9100 - all the info you could possibly want is already here, and is available to all, instantly, by using the Search feature. The icon to access it is in the upper right portion of your screen here - you'll enjoy using it, and get the info you want much faster.
Briefly - the 9100 is not available thru "normal" Superchips, Inc dealers - it's made by Superchips Custom Tuning, and is a special unit whose distribution is very strictly controlled, requiring a large financial investment in the hardware & tuning software required to be able to tune with them.
When someone orders the 9100 from us, Superchips is not doing the tuning - *we* are. So our customers get higher power gains & better performance improvements via our in-depth custom tuning we do for each individual vehicle in the 9100. Even for bone-stock vehicles there is significantly more power & performance gains in our custom tuning in the 9100, as compared to what you get from the "standard" performance tuning in the 1715.
The 9100 is designed for use as a custom tune-capable version of Micro Tuner, basically - it does not come pre-programmed, it arrives empty, and *we* do the actual tuning, we make the programs that are inside, then upload the programs into the 9100 Micro Tuner, and then ship it out to our customers. The 9100 can be programmed for *any* 1996-2004 FoMoCo vehicle that uses the EEC-V PCM - diesels, V10's, 4-bangers, F-150's, Lincolns, etc.
You can read up on some of the details on our web site at this link: http://www.troyerperformance.com/cgi...chips%3BFoMoCo - Read up on those 2 part#'s - 1715 and 9100.
So it's not something that *we* created, it is a "Superchips" product - but it's designed for those of us with the knowledge & experience who can actually do our own tuning to use it to deliver that custom tuning - so we have complete control over the tuning, and can give the customer virtually anything they want. Anything from fuel economy tunes to all-out drag race tunes, towing programs, and everything in between.
Basically, the 9100 is a limited-distribution custom version of Micro Tuner, intended for those who want the best possible raw power and performance gains - as well as the very best mpg, etc., via our in-depth custom tuning. The 9100 in and of itself doesn't "automatically" give anyone any more power, it's who is doing the actual tuning that determines the quality of the results - and most F-150 owners come to us for their tuning, as we've specialized in F-150 tuning & performance for many years.
In short - if you want the best powertrain program, the 9100 is the hot tip over the 1715 - don't get me wrong, the 1715 does a fine job - it's just that it's a "standard" or "off the shelf" performance tune, as opposed to the in-depth custom tuning we can do in the 9100 version of the Micro Tuner.
I hope I've been able to make this a little bit clearer than mud - if you'd like to go over any of this in more detail, please give us a call at our number listed below & we'll be happy to go over all of this with you, and let you know just exactly what we can do for *your* truck with the 9100, as compared to what you'll get with the 1715, etc.
All you need to do is just use the Search feature to retrieve & read any of the many posts we've already put up here about the 1715 versus the 9100 - all the info you could possibly want is already here, and is available to all, instantly, by using the Search feature. The icon to access it is in the upper right portion of your screen here - you'll enjoy using it, and get the info you want much faster.
Briefly - the 9100 is not available thru "normal" Superchips, Inc dealers - it's made by Superchips Custom Tuning, and is a special unit whose distribution is very strictly controlled, requiring a large financial investment in the hardware & tuning software required to be able to tune with them.
When someone orders the 9100 from us, Superchips is not doing the tuning - *we* are. So our customers get higher power gains & better performance improvements via our in-depth custom tuning we do for each individual vehicle in the 9100. Even for bone-stock vehicles there is significantly more power & performance gains in our custom tuning in the 9100, as compared to what you get from the "standard" performance tuning in the 1715.
The 9100 is designed for use as a custom tune-capable version of Micro Tuner, basically - it does not come pre-programmed, it arrives empty, and *we* do the actual tuning, we make the programs that are inside, then upload the programs into the 9100 Micro Tuner, and then ship it out to our customers. The 9100 can be programmed for *any* 1996-2004 FoMoCo vehicle that uses the EEC-V PCM - diesels, V10's, 4-bangers, F-150's, Lincolns, etc.
You can read up on some of the details on our web site at this link: http://www.troyerperformance.com/cgi...chips%3BFoMoCo - Read up on those 2 part#'s - 1715 and 9100.
So it's not something that *we* created, it is a "Superchips" product - but it's designed for those of us with the knowledge & experience who can actually do our own tuning to use it to deliver that custom tuning - so we have complete control over the tuning, and can give the customer virtually anything they want. Anything from fuel economy tunes to all-out drag race tunes, towing programs, and everything in between.
Basically, the 9100 is a limited-distribution custom version of Micro Tuner, intended for those who want the best possible raw power and performance gains - as well as the very best mpg, etc., via our in-depth custom tuning. The 9100 in and of itself doesn't "automatically" give anyone any more power, it's who is doing the actual tuning that determines the quality of the results - and most F-150 owners come to us for their tuning, as we've specialized in F-150 tuning & performance for many years.
In short - if you want the best powertrain program, the 9100 is the hot tip over the 1715 - don't get me wrong, the 1715 does a fine job - it's just that it's a "standard" or "off the shelf" performance tune, as opposed to the in-depth custom tuning we can do in the 9100 version of the Micro Tuner.
I hope I've been able to make this a little bit clearer than mud - if you'd like to go over any of this in more detail, please give us a call at our number listed below & we'll be happy to go over all of this with you, and let you know just exactly what we can do for *your* truck with the 9100, as compared to what you'll get with the 1715, etc.
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06-21-2004, 12:36 PM
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Hi joshdarnell,
FYI - Actually, all of that info & more is readily available by simply using the Search feature - the icon to access it is in the upper right corner of your screen here. Use it's search filters to retrieve & read the exact topic you want immediately - it's easy to use & is your key to instantly accessing all the info that is already here. This is one of "the basics," meaning something that has been covered many, many times before, as virtually everyone that comes here wants to know all the same things - so it's readily available by using the Search feature.
We cannot discuss pricing here, as that is against the rules of F-150 Online - for that info, please give us a quick call at our number listed below when you get a chance, & thanks in advance for your understanding on that.
The difference in additional power & performance gain of our custom tuning delivered in the 9100 versus the Superchips tuning in the 1715 is significant - one of our members here actually did that test at the drag strip in his 2003 5.4 truck, and he ran 4 tenths quicker with our custom tuning in the 9100 versus what he ran with the 1715 - that's a bunch.
Worst-case, we can always get another 10-12 more horsepower gain on top of what the 1715 delivers, and on some of these trucks *twice* that amount in addition* to what the 1715 delivers - so it's always very well worth going with our in-depth custom tuning, even on a bone-stock vehicle. For example, many of these vehicles have long delays in transitioning over into open loop - the 1715 can't help that, but we can in our custom tuning. There are also some trucks that can't *ever* go into open loop because of limitations in their stock tuning - now if that's just s simple "switch" in the software, the 1715 handles that - but if it's not a simple switch, the only way to fix that is with the custom tune - so for all these reasons & many more, most people go with our custom tuning as they want the best power & performance gains, as even on the best factory tunes the additional improvement is significant, & well worth the small additional cost.
You've also got a lot more flexibility in the 9100, as we can set it up with *any* combination of 3 different custom tunes - some people have us set them up with a fuel economy program for 87 octane, then a towing program for premium gas, and then a 100 octane drag race tune - just for one example. Most people with lightly modified trucks tend to have us do a set of 3 tunes similar to what's in the 1715, but each one has more power & performance - we can set it up any way the customer needs & wants, that's the beauty of it.
For details, you can give us a call at our number listed below, & you can also read the info at the link at the end of this paragraph - you'll want to read up specifically on Part#'s 5500 (our 4-bank single program chip), then #6600 (4-bank 4-program chip), and then finally, Part# 9100, which is our 3-program custom version of the Micro Tuner - those are the 3 products that we can deliver our in-depth custom tuning to you in - most people use the 9100 as it's a single plug-n-play installation. There is also an option to have email update capability, so that if any changes are desired, they can simply be emailed to you. here's the link: http://www.troyerperformance.com/cgi...chips%3BFoMoCo
The cost to have the programs changed strictly depends on how much work we have to do - simple gear ratio & tire size changes are free, for example.
To go over any of this in more detail, just give us a shout at our number listed below & we'll be happy to go over all of that with you.
Best of luck whatever you decide!
FYI - Actually, all of that info & more is readily available by simply using the Search feature - the icon to access it is in the upper right corner of your screen here. Use it's search filters to retrieve & read the exact topic you want immediately - it's easy to use & is your key to instantly accessing all the info that is already here. This is one of "the basics," meaning something that has been covered many, many times before, as virtually everyone that comes here wants to know all the same things - so it's readily available by using the Search feature.
We cannot discuss pricing here, as that is against the rules of F-150 Online - for that info, please give us a quick call at our number listed below when you get a chance, & thanks in advance for your understanding on that.
The difference in additional power & performance gain of our custom tuning delivered in the 9100 versus the Superchips tuning in the 1715 is significant - one of our members here actually did that test at the drag strip in his 2003 5.4 truck, and he ran 4 tenths quicker with our custom tuning in the 9100 versus what he ran with the 1715 - that's a bunch.
Worst-case, we can always get another 10-12 more horsepower gain on top of what the 1715 delivers, and on some of these trucks *twice* that amount in addition* to what the 1715 delivers - so it's always very well worth going with our in-depth custom tuning, even on a bone-stock vehicle. For example, many of these vehicles have long delays in transitioning over into open loop - the 1715 can't help that, but we can in our custom tuning. There are also some trucks that can't *ever* go into open loop because of limitations in their stock tuning - now if that's just s simple "switch" in the software, the 1715 handles that - but if it's not a simple switch, the only way to fix that is with the custom tune - so for all these reasons & many more, most people go with our custom tuning as they want the best power & performance gains, as even on the best factory tunes the additional improvement is significant, & well worth the small additional cost.
You've also got a lot more flexibility in the 9100, as we can set it up with *any* combination of 3 different custom tunes - some people have us set them up with a fuel economy program for 87 octane, then a towing program for premium gas, and then a 100 octane drag race tune - just for one example. Most people with lightly modified trucks tend to have us do a set of 3 tunes similar to what's in the 1715, but each one has more power & performance - we can set it up any way the customer needs & wants, that's the beauty of it.
For details, you can give us a call at our number listed below, & you can also read the info at the link at the end of this paragraph - you'll want to read up specifically on Part#'s 5500 (our 4-bank single program chip), then #6600 (4-bank 4-program chip), and then finally, Part# 9100, which is our 3-program custom version of the Micro Tuner - those are the 3 products that we can deliver our in-depth custom tuning to you in - most people use the 9100 as it's a single plug-n-play installation. There is also an option to have email update capability, so that if any changes are desired, they can simply be emailed to you. here's the link: http://www.troyerperformance.com/cgi...chips%3BFoMoCo
The cost to have the programs changed strictly depends on how much work we have to do - simple gear ratio & tire size changes are free, for example.
To go over any of this in more detail, just give us a shout at our number listed below & we'll be happy to go over all of that with you.
Best of luck whatever you decide!