Hey guys!
I have a stock 04 5.4 Lariat Screw 4x4 and need some help on deciding which tuner to get.
I like the idea that the 6600 gives me the flexability to change tunes at the drop of a hat' or better yet the change of a traffic light! But, it would require me to find a way to install it inconspicuously so folks wouldn't jump in the truck and say "Hey, what's that thing!".
On the other hand, the 1714 is not visible in the cab but lacks the "on demand" flexibility.
Do both tuners increase the performance, hp, and torque equally? Is either tuner upgradeable like the 9100?
So which one to get??

Thanks in advance for any input!!

Bogie

 

i believe the 1714 is 4 the 6.0 diesel or the new 3 valve 5.4? if so it's either the 1714 or a custom flash- the 6600 is for 2003 or older fords

 

Im guessing he meant the 1715, not 1714.

Anyway, the 6600 is supposed to get more power gains etc than the 1715.

The **** whould be easy to hide I would think. You could put it in the counsel, on the steering coulum, in the pockets in the door, glove box etc

 

I was looking at the Troyer Performance website and it descibes that the 6600 can be used on all Ford vehicles from 1987 to 2004, including trucks. Does the 04 F-150 have a different processor than a EEC type?
Nevertheless, thanks for straightening me out for which tuner is for what model year. I guess that makes my decision that much easier to make! The 1714 it is!!

Thanks again!

Bogie

 

Yeah there is something different with the computer, at the begining of the 6600 description it says what it is, I just cant remember for sure

 

The 6600 wont work on the new 3 valve V-8s because of a new computer system. The only two options available right now are to get your ECU reflashed or get the 1714. A custom tuner like the 9100 will be here in a few months.

 

Hi Bogie,

Yes, the 2004 F-150 with the new body style has a completely different PCM - it's not the same PCM the 2004 Heritage (old body style) F-150's use, or like the 1996-2003 F-150's use, which was the EEC-V - it's a 1472 Black Oak, and so it doesn't have anywhere you could even connect a traditional performance "chip" to - so it has to be flashed instead of "chipped."

Right now, there are 2 viable tuning options for the 3-valve 5.4 2004 F-150 - send the PCM in for us to flash it with our custom tuning, or just use the 1714 Micro Tuner and be able to return to stock at any time, and have your choice of 3 different levels of performance tuning. Right now, almost everyone is doing the 1714, it's just so simple and gives excellent power & performance gains - we had a hand in that tuning.

If you'd like to go over any of this in more detail, feel free to give us a call, & best of luck with your new 2004 F-150!

 

Is the 1714 available now? I checked Superchips website and it says coming soon.

 

Hi quotidian9,

Yes, it is available - or I should more accurately say, it will start shipping again in a few days.

The deal is, the 1714 has actually started shipping already, the first major production run was made & is sold out due to high demand (of course) - then due to so many different factory reflashes being done to the PCM's in the 2004 3-valve 5.4 trucks (virtually all of them), a significant number of the 1714's had to be "updated" with all those new unknown "computer codes," or PCM software revisions - the reflashes that were done to so many of these vehicles after being built, as happens with brand new first-year vehicles like the 3-valve 5.4 F-150 for 2004. Same thing happened with us on our own 2004, when we used the 1714 it needed an update - our 2004 F-150 had been reflashed twice, as it turns out. It started life as a BME8, was flashed to a BME9, and then to yet another code just a couple weeks before we installed the 1714 in our truck.

So right now they are being updated, and then will start shipping in quantity again in a few days.

What the Micro Tuner does when you connect it to the vehicle is to first store a copy of the truck's stock tuning, and then do an internal lookup to find the exact code-matched program for each individual truck -once it finds the code-matched performance program, it then uploads the appropriate performance tuning into the vehicle's PCM - so all is fine as long as the code in the vehicle's PCM is in the Micro Tuner, and it usually is. Well, since most of the 2004 3-valve 5.4 F-150's have had new PCM reflashes after they were built, lots of us 2004 owners have had to send the 1714 in to the manufacturer, who updates them for free.

Since in this case, we have the combination of a new product AND a new vehicle in it's first model year with many dealer reflashes updates out there, Superchips decided to hold off the next "wave" of shipments until they got all the new codes from all the 1714's being sent in added, so they could make sure each future production run had all those codes built in.

It's just an odd combination of new product and an all-new vehicle that had a lot of running changes made after being built by Ford - the PCM reflashes - so figure that it will be just a few days before the 1714 starts shipping again.

We've been taking orders for them during this time of course, as people want to get the 1714 as soon as possible - as always with units that are in big demand like the 1714, first come is first served - just FYI.

 

Thanks Mike. I already have mine on order and Anita called yesterday to give me the update on delivery. Can't wait to get it and try it out.

 

Mike,
I recieved my 1714 with the 1st batch you sent out and had no problems at all. I never had to take my truck into the shop for a PCM reflash also. I am very pleased with the tuner so far and highly recommend it. I do have a question though, will I need to send my tuner in for the updates even though I am not having any problems? I am concerned if I had to take my truck into the shop for what ever reason and they flash my PCM then I won't be able to reload the Performance Tune.

 

Hi Black,

This was something that affected only those trucks that had PCM update reflashes that were not available at the time the R&D on the 1714 was completed & the first units shipped.

For those trucks whose PCM revision was already in the 1714, like yours, this was not a problem - it had your code and flashed your PCM & so you're now enjoying the performance tuning - no problem!

The only potential concern would be if your truck goes in and gets a PCM reflash at some point in the future that is NOT in your 1714 - in that case, the 1714 would tell you right on it's screen to "Call Superchips," who would issue you an RMA to do the update.

Just make sure that you use the 1714 to return your vehicle's PCM program back to stock BEFORE you take it in for a PCM reflash - otherwise your Micro Tuner would think you're trying to use it on multiple vehicles when you go to retune the truck again after getting it back from service, and would not allow you to tune the truck. That requires an expensive unlock from the manufacturer to fix.

So for now, do nothing - you're all set.

Just make sure to return the vehicle to it's stock tuning if you take it in for service at any Ford dealership, just in case they decide to do a PCM reflash.

Have fun!