you are correct on this...I just read it on Ford's site

Technician Review Panel Meeting

November 30 - December 2, 2005



PCM Reprogramming and Authorized Modifications Label

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A reprogramming label is no longer necessary on vehicles serviced in North America. Therefore, Ford has discontinued the use of the "Authorized Modification Label" for PCM programming

asinatra I see you also posted in the message boards regarding it

 

so techinally if the origianl poster had his reflash done after the november - december 2005 date, asinatra is correct, but if he had the reflash done before that, then the dealer should have attached the label and Mike is correct.

just trying to keep things staight since everyone is on hunt and destroy mod.

sounds like a way for the dealer to lock in customers and make a little more $$$

 

FoMoCo proably had no way to police all those dealers that weren't doing there job correctly, and had to say "to hade's with it".

 

I'm trying to decide if anyone owes someone an apology . I think we all try to provide what we think are the true and honest answers. Sometimes, the facts change and we provide the wrong answer. That's what this forum is about, providing valuable info regarding our trucks. Raider, Nice job for checking and confirming the truth.

 

Yup, i saw it before just surfing FMC but i couldnt find it the second time, so i figured posting would be the best idea

 

Hi.

Two items:

1> I dropped by my 'fave' dealer last nite - and they do indeed supply the appropriate label upon a reflash - so Neal may have a point about Canuck Ford dealers hehe...

2> Gobra - in Mike's most recent post, he states the current procedure is to ship it blank to read the strategy, then upon return, tune from that point, not load an 'original' code tune. Simply his call, obviously, as it should be, and I presume it would depend upon the specific circumstances. My 2 francs.

Cheers
Vic

 

Yeah, but I knew what had previosly been told to me had changed so.... I didnt want to look like an idiot so i posted the previous reply from MT, just to show that i had a reason to post the info that i did (although out of date), that's all. There are a LOT of trucks that have been or will be flashed with no sticker. That would seem to be a headache for all of the XCAL2 tuners.

I thought i saw somewhere that you could update the xcal2 programs via the web if you bought that package. I would rather do that than eat the shipping again.

 

Just because a dealership puts the a sticker on doesn't mean that it is required. We all know how well information flows. Something that small may not seem important to pass along. I was told by the dealer that my truck gets 300rwhp. Now we all know that isn't true. Just because they work at a dealer doesn't mean they know what the h&ll is going on. An example is raidr works for FoMoCo and he wasn't aware of the new policy. Not slamming him, joints points out the information doesn't always get disiminated as it should.

This is truly gonna hurt those that want to get the xcal2 and the dealer won't provide them the new pcm. You will have to get a tuner sent to you, read the code, send it back, then wait for it to get tuned. Plus this is an additional charge if I read MT post correctly. Again, not a slam, just an observation

 

I didnt see the info that asinatra posted until I searched for it, thats why I thought he was wrong...I know the techs in my dealership will install the Authorized Modification Label after a PCM is reflased just because they have been doing it for years...but I cant speak for other dealers...they dont have to install it but it should be noted on the Repair Order...but Im sure that the customers copy wont show the new calibration # that it was reflashed to...the customer will have to ask for the new version if they are interested in getting a programmer

 

Hmm, some excellent info here - so Ford is saying that as of the November-December 2005 timeframe, they are no longer requiring their dealers to place the Notice of Authorized Modification sticker, I take it. That is news, and good to know.

I wish I had more time to research this personally, as our understanding was that this was something that was required for emissions reasons, and that the automaker did not have the ability to decide that arbitrarily - it would be interesting to see if anyone actually knew the *currently* applicable Federal mandates in this regard, to determine if in fact it's OK for the automaker to say basically "nah, skipping it is OK."

Regardless, I feel it is something that should always be done, as it takes all of 2 minutes and represents thorough, professional work IMHO.

Gobra, if you have any questions as to our policies, you need to give us a call on that, as per the vendor rules here regarding things like individual policies, tech support, order status, etc. Each situation is generally judged o a case-by-case basis, depending on just what is actually required.

 

Gotcha. I was trying to relay my conversations with you on the forum that was in contradiction to what Marc said. That's all. I think it is a good policy to go straight to the source instead of trying to "guess" what your policy "might" be. Sorry for muddying the waters, so to speak.
I tried to look on the epa site for verification of asintra's post but that was an exercise in futility!! On the plus side, I think we learned that Ford may or may not put calibration stickers on reflashed vehicles. Learning is good.

 

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