I would rather be able to spin my tires, cause a good driver can launch quickly from a start and not boil them down. I think that it's a shame and a slap in the face that my truck won't even spin out. Ooooo yeah, I can launch fast. But what if I wanted to do a cool burnout? S.O.L.

Khendrix, if your truck had enough power to spin your tires for 60', then it would speed up a lot quicker. You'd just have to ***** foot it.

 

What are you guys talking about? I have a stock 2004 5.4L Screw 3.55 with 20" wheels and I can spin the right wheel with abandon (not ls).

 

Here's a short clip showing the typical tire squeal I get when taking off...

http://media.putfile.com/Quick-take-off-tire-squeal

Is that considered 'lighting them up'?

 

I said new stock truck,not a 99 model.Not a truck with throttle cable,drive by wire.

 

I have seen a few comparisons between the 5.4L 3V and other engines. I just wanted to clarify a few things. First, the designation HEMI, means a Hemispherical Combustion Chamber, or a round Combustion Chamber, nothing more. My 1970 Norton Commando uses a HEMI type combustion chamber.

The Ford 5.4L 3V engine uses a “SOHC” Single Over Head Cam, "Extra-Hard” Aluminum-Lead Silicon Alloy main bearings, “High-Silicon” Hypereutectic Aluminum Alloy-Graphite Coated Strutless Modified Barrel Skirt pistons, Moly Plasma Filled low-friction rings, sintered iron valve seats and inserts, roller finger cam followers, Cracked - Powdered Metal connecting rods, Coil on Plug Ignition System, Sequential Electronic Fuel Injection, Variable Cam Timing, Charge Motion Control Valves, Electronic Throttle Control, Composite Metal oil pan, Magnesium Valve Covers, Cold Air Intake, Aluminum Heads, 3 Valves per Cylinder, on Ward’s 10 Best Engines list, and much more. All of which impresses me as a more sophisticated truck engine design than anything out there.

 

same here, except I'm about an honest 5-8 feet, both wheels, post tune, on dry pavement, factory Goodyear AT/S.

 

I have the x cal 2... only because i HADE to have a custom tune It'll burn em pretty good

 

Lakeport, you may not want to hear the facts, and your response really says it all - it was very immature to say the least.

But like it or not, I tell it like it is, plain and simple.

Here at Troyer Performance we are, in fact, experts on these specific vehicles, having specialized in their modification for many years - and what I told you is the truth - it is *fact* that some will light up 35's in stock trim, while others with significant mods won't spin a stock tire much, and that there are numerous differnet tire compounds right from the factory on these trucks.

But obviously you know nothing about the difference between a hard or a soft compounded tire, and cannot stand to be told reality. No, your type would rather sit there & spin tires instead of seeing the truck actually go somewhere - that's the stupidity of the very young - I was once the same way, but thanks to those who were smarter and kind enough to enlighten me, I learned better and went on to be a successful professional drag racer and own a company that is the envy of many - through many years of hard work and being willing to listen, and of takign care of our customers because we genuinely care.

If you ever get to the point where you actually own a vehicle with some real power, hopefully you will at some point realize that what you have stated was not only childish and rude, but is also pure nonsense - and some day when you finally get beat enough times by vehicles that hook up their power to the ground, perhaps you will think back on this and realize that you had been told, but failed to listen, and instead, posted a very childish and thankless response to someone who was only trying to help you.

I'm not here to tell people what they want to here, I'm here to tell them the truth, and to share the benefits of our many years of experience modifying these vehicles - when someone like you comes along and posts the nonsense that you & chester have, you really only shout your ignorance - it's not cool or funny when you are rude to someone who obviously knows far more than you and who was only trying to help you understand.

In case your parents failed to tell you, that is called bad manners.

I wish you well,

 

Man, I haven't heard a slap that loud in a looooong time. Go Mike.

SL

 

Wow, I might have to concede my user name. I think we can still help out though.

First make sure you have bald, hard, tires on the back filled to max pressure. Loosen up your rear breaks and then have your girlfriend keep a bottle of bleach with her. Whenever you want to Burn'em at the next stop light have her run around the truck an put a puddle of bleach in front of each rear tire, then put on the front brakes and stand on it. That should do it, and don't forget to get it all on camera.

 

 

Dear Mike. I apologize if my comments offended you. They were not direc ted at you or your product or services. I do appreciate your knowledge. At the same time I am very frustrated with a new $40,000.00 truck which I believe to be underpowered and does not meet its advertised claims by the way of seat of the pants performance. I do stand by my comments, which are my opinion, that if the truck had sufficient power, it would not matter what kind of tire or rubber compound the tire was made out of, the truck would be able to spin the tires. I think you would even agree that if enough power is supplied, at some point, the tires would spin. That is all I was trying to say. No disrespect was intended for your product or your knowledge. I certainly do not blame you for any shortcomings I percieve with the vehicle produced by Ford. I have owned Ford trucks for over 25 years and I can tell you that the truck does not perform as advertised or touted. This is in its stock configuration without any mods of any kind or any tuning.

 

Does Ford advertise it as having a certain amount of "seat of the pants" performance? If so, leather or cloth seats, and what kind of pants?

Your right, tire compounds don't make a difference at all. They're all the same. 80K mile 18 wheeler tires, slicks, same material, traction and purpose. Listen LL, I'm no expert on this, but if enough power is supplied, you could tow a loaded dump truck. That doesn't mean you'll be able to do a burnout. On the other hand, you can have enough torque to smoke the tires, but that doesn't --in all cases--mean you'll have a ton of power to tow with.

I think you may have read the ad for a Lightning and got confused. They'll smoke the tires if you so much as look at the gas pedal the wrong way.

SL

 

Not to hijack the thread, but since MT is keeping his eye on it, I'll throw this out there.
Mr. Troyer,
There has recently been some interest in a group buy, sparked by interest in a long ago started thread. Are you considering another op for the group buy and waiting for more interest, or is it not in the cards?
Thanks,

SL

 

Dang man, did you really pay 40k for your truck??