Did you call EDGE?
It was working fine! What else do you want?!
Well, now you get to wait for Mr. Troyer to make a proper update.

 

.... ahh Mr. Bubba.... We all know how you feel... (I admit, I'd feel the same way too.) ....You're just mad because you don't have an EDGE. We all understand. We know how many people you race every day, and how often you actually USE your tuner. I bet it's sitting on your dash right now, telling you about the health of your truck, isn't it! It sure helps you out when you're riding down the road, not actually racing.

But, after second thought, since your truck hardly ever does anything but race, I bet you're glad you bought the one you did! I sure am glad that you got the best tuner to suit all your truck's custom modifications! I bet your truck will squeal its tires louder than mine too!!! Why, you might even have a shot at outrunning a V6 mustang!!!!!!

Blah blah, see? We could all sit and argue about which is better. It feels good when somebody makes you feel stupid doesn't it? Enough childishness. Just buy the one you want and quit taking pot shots at everybody that bought the other one. It's getting really old.

 

Hi.

LMAO, again !!! Actually, ROFLMAO !!!!

Yup - I am old, and I really enjoy taking pot shots at the product - not the folks that bought them. In the (hopeless, it seems sometimes) attempt to help them make an informed decision.

Open your eyes, I'm not the only one

As long as the 'pots' are made of nerf material, flying in both directions in a good-natured-banter sort of way, there isn't an issue. If not, then RP will step in & whack us.

I've tried to keep it light - but some still don't believe me. Too bad.

My X2 is safely locked away (too cold out to use it on the road). No worries though, my perfect spot-on tuning is in place. I've got my data. I have proper support. Chebbies dying left & right. My discrete analog gauges are providing all the info I need & they still work. I don't give a crap about mileage. Life is good ( well except for the fact that I still can't find my beer)

As for the v6 Mustang, well, that's what my GT, VFR & Cannondale are for ;-))

When you finally unravel your panties again, perhaps you'll recollect:

"In closing - the only folks who take me seriously are the ones who hopelessly lack a sense of humour ;-))"

Cheers (Nature's beer fridge - my back deck! Except now after 50cm of snow, I can no longer find my back deck, nor my beer )

Bubba

 

Hey, I'm new to posting on this forum. Been reading for about 2 months now but had no reason to post.

Purchased my Edge Evo this week and should get it on Monday. Unfortunately, it's for an 07 FX4 SCREW and after reading this post I'm afraid to even try it.

This might be a stupid question, but I'm new to this programming thing. What are the potential consequences of using this tune for the 07s with this error code? Is there a chance that something could go wrong and cause a no start condition?

As well, does anyone have any idea when Edge will be releasing a fix for this?

Thanks for the help

 

It looks like a 2nd beta has been released.

Just checked my program and it was updated Feb. 22/07

 

Sorry....accidental repost

 

I purchased my Edge last month and I haven't had any problems. I'm enjoying the gains and the monitoring that the Edge has provided.

If you don't have anything productive to say, don't say anything. It seems like the Troyer boys comb the post looking for a chance to market the troyer tunes. Actually its getting very annoying. I hardly ever see Edge users jumping in a Troyer tuned X-CAL 2 tread to market the Edge tuners.

05RedFX4,

If you are done with your Edge then sell it and wait on your Troyer tuned X-CAL and be done with it.

I'm sure all tuners have problems.

 

It's already sold, and I already have my x-cal 2 from Troyer, I went to dyno day yesterday and picked it up.

I used to be a believer of the EDGE, I thought it was great. But when they took a good month and a half to get an update for me and it still did not work right, I knew it was time to look elsewhere.

Now that I have experienced and driven both, there IS NO COMPARISON between the edge and a custom tune from Troyer. The edge is like an appetizer, good enough to give you a taste but not much else. But when you get hungry for more power (insert Tim the tool man Taylor grunt here) then it's time to step up and order the T-Bone of the tuner world and get an x-cal 2 from troyer.

For all you non believers or haters who want to argue and claim that an edge (or any canned tuner) is just as good as a custom tune from Troyer, do me a favor and just S.T.F.U. Until you have driven both and can make a real comparison, you don't have a leg to stand on.

 

I'm glad you are statisfied. That's what it's all about. So we should get no more whinning from you then. If we could only stop the other Troyer XCal2 owners from whinning. You have the tuner you want, so that should be the end. Its not about being a non believer or hater. We all know what tuners can do. I think Edge owners want more than just a tune. So when you Troyer starts selling a custom tuner that can do everything the Edge can do, you can buy that as well. So I my opinion, the Edge was just more bang for the buck. I don't have to own both to make an INTELIGENT discision. Now I won't stoop to you level and tell you to S.T.F.U. I'll just say have a great weekend and enjoy your FX4. It's a sweet truck.

 

First of all, that S.T.F.U. remark was not meant for you, there are other members who like to argue about everything, no matter how many times you try to tell them.

Second, what can the edge do that others can't, display some useless gauges that are not anymore accurate than the stock gauges (they both get thier inputs from the same place) other than that the edge is just a glorified canned tuner THATS ALL. Any tuner can adjust for tire size,gear ratio, etc. In a nutshell, the edge is like AOL (internet for dummies)

Third, Troyer does have something that does everything the edge does and then some, it's called the Livewire (I saw them first hand while I was there, and watched as Mike tested the unit on an 05 F-150)

Now, as far as calling all us Troyer fans whinners, just remember that Mike Troyer and Troyer Performance are supporting vendors of this site and badmouthing him is a fastrack to getting your a$$ banned. Edge is not a supporting vendor, they can't even support their own customers.

 

I don't recall any Edge user claiming that the Edge produced more power than a Troyer tuned Xcal2. In fact, just the opposite. What I have seen is many Edge users saying that the Edge fits their needs better than the Xcal2. Hope you continue enjoying your tunes and your truck and leave us alone to enjoy ours.

 

05RedFX4,

First lets get one thing straight. Not once have I bad mouth Mike Troyer. And If I get banned for what I have said, then so be it. I bought my True Blue F150 FX4 because I wanted it, not because of this site. The truck came before the site. Saying that, this site is a wealth of valuable information and there are some really good members. So don't try to bring Mike and the site into this.

Second, you say you watched them test the livewire? So I guess you are going to purchase that when it becomes available. That's my point. The Edge had want I wanted then and now. You may be purchasing your 3rd tuner by the time you get back to what the Edge offers.

Finally, if the Edge is for dummies, then why were you licking your chops at Mikes over the livewire? Then it looks like they are dumming things down for you now. Why are the XCAL2 owners impatiently awaiting the release of the livewire? You sound a little comfused.

 

Yes, I watched them test a livewire, I never said that I wanted one. And no I was not drooling or licking my chops over the livewire, I have what I want, I don't need a livewire.I just mentioned that to point out that Troyer has some thing that does everything that an edge does.

 

Now that there's some funny chit

Couple things: I think the Edge gauges are useful; the stock truck gauges are not - the sensors used are the same - it's how the data is processed that is different. I would think the raw data out of the PCM would have to be accurate as some of that info is used to control the truck.

So, by extension, LiveWire's display should be at least as useful - except it will, presumably, be able to display hundreds of parameters.

Edge needs to work on their update responsiveness, and NOT keep posting BETA releases !!! Test it in-house, then release. Playing roulette with customers' PCMs is nonsense.

Better, more comprehensive documentation on how to use the PID data capture functionality would be great - it would help folks who cared, to assess the impact of their customizations, and would get broader use of that feature than is evident now.

If they would fix those issues, then I'd say they are producing a good canned product for the masses.

Cheers
Bubba

 

It does for me. The edge makes me TONS more horsepower than the xcal, cause I don't have an Xcal!