what is open loop
#2
Originally Posted by chrism9232
what is going open loop and can a stock 2001 4.6 do it
Search, buddy - you're no noob!
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...ight=open+loop
On your '01` - depends on your PCM/strategy code.
Post your 4-character PCM code - Mike Troyer can tell from that.
Cheers
Bubba
#4
Originally Posted by chrism9232
were do i find my 4-character PCM code
These links should help ...
http://www.troyerperformance.com/cgi...&link=compcode
http://www.sctflash.com/Find_EEC.php
Cheers
Bubba
#5
Originally Posted by MGDfan
Hi.
Search, buddy - you're no noob!
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...ight=open+loop
On your '01` - depends on your PCM/strategy code.
Post your 4-character PCM code - Mike Troyer can tell from that.
Cheers
Bubba
Search, buddy - you're no noob!
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...ight=open+loop
On your '01` - depends on your PCM/strategy code.
Post your 4-character PCM code - Mike Troyer can tell from that.
Cheers
Bubba
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#10
Hi Chris,
No, that truck *cannot* go into open loop from the factory - that needs to be fixed via proper custom tuning.
Open loop operation is where the vehicle's PCM is no longer taking data from the O2 sensors, but instead is running off of the lookup tables, and more importantly, only in open loop can it go richer than stoich A/F (14.64:1) and thus be able to tolerate more spark advance, and thus make more power. So not being able to go open loop puts a real damper on power under any load, or at anything more than light throttle.
That particular code also takes a good deal of work to really get nice results from in other areas of the strategy, but overall, certainly can be done.
We have tuned many of those trucks with that same code, and know the strategy well, so if you want to have it tuned, just give us a call & we can make it run much better than it does now.
No, that truck *cannot* go into open loop from the factory - that needs to be fixed via proper custom tuning.
Open loop operation is where the vehicle's PCM is no longer taking data from the O2 sensors, but instead is running off of the lookup tables, and more importantly, only in open loop can it go richer than stoich A/F (14.64:1) and thus be able to tolerate more spark advance, and thus make more power. So not being able to go open loop puts a real damper on power under any load, or at anything more than light throttle.
That particular code also takes a good deal of work to really get nice results from in other areas of the strategy, but overall, certainly can be done.
We have tuned many of those trucks with that same code, and know the strategy well, so if you want to have it tuned, just give us a call & we can make it run much better than it does now.
#11
Originally Posted by Superchips_Distributor
Hi Chris,
No, that truck *cannot* go into open loop from the factory - that needs to be fixed via proper custom tuning.
Open loop operation is where the vehicle's PCM is no longer taking data from the O2 sensors, but instead is running off of the lookup tables, and more importantly, only in open loop can it go richer than stoich A/F (14.64:1) and thus be able to tolerate more spark advance, and thus make more power. So not being able to go open loop puts a real damper on power under any load, or at anything more than light throttle.
That particular code also takes a good deal of work to really get nice results from in other areas of the strategy, but overall, certainly can be done.
We have tuned many of those trucks with that same code, and know the strategy well, so if you want to have it tuned, just give us a call & we can make it run much better than it does now.
No, that truck *cannot* go into open loop from the factory - that needs to be fixed via proper custom tuning.
Open loop operation is where the vehicle's PCM is no longer taking data from the O2 sensors, but instead is running off of the lookup tables, and more importantly, only in open loop can it go richer than stoich A/F (14.64:1) and thus be able to tolerate more spark advance, and thus make more power. So not being able to go open loop puts a real damper on power under any load, or at anything more than light throttle.
That particular code also takes a good deal of work to really get nice results from in other areas of the strategy, but overall, certainly can be done.
We have tuned many of those trucks with that same code, and know the strategy well, so if you want to have it tuned, just give us a call & we can make it run much better than it does now.
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Hi Chester,
Sure, we can do that - Ford does that in a number of the gas engine trucks for one reason - so that they get better fuel mileage at full-throttle.
Now keep in mind that doing this hurts power - but if someone wanted to tow a heavy load a long ways and didn't care about power, we can get them a bit better fuel mileage at heavy throttle by not allowing it to go open loop. Personally I do not recommend it, due to what happens to the EGT's (exhaust gas temperatures), but Ford does it in the 1997-2003 model F-150's, so if someone wanted that, yes, we would do it for them.
Sure, we can do that - Ford does that in a number of the gas engine trucks for one reason - so that they get better fuel mileage at full-throttle.
Now keep in mind that doing this hurts power - but if someone wanted to tow a heavy load a long ways and didn't care about power, we can get them a bit better fuel mileage at heavy throttle by not allowing it to go open loop. Personally I do not recommend it, due to what happens to the EGT's (exhaust gas temperatures), but Ford does it in the 1997-2003 model F-150's, so if someone wanted that, yes, we would do it for them.