Hi all, I have a line on buying a used Edge CS Evolution Programmer 85150
for a decent price. I do not know the seller at all. The unit is 3 months old, with a receipt to prove..... he claims. What do I need to know to look for when I go look at this unit? How do I know that it does not still have the old truck's info in it still? He used it on a 2010 Chev.

 

Make sure it is set back to stock.

Assuming you are going to meet the seller, power it up and look for a "0" on the display.

If you're buying over eBay, have him send you a picture of the unit (powered up). Again, look for the "0".

You can download a manual here:http://www.edgeproducts.com/product_...manual-345.pdf

 

I am definitely meeting him, as it is a local purchase. So when you power up the unit, it shows 0 where exactly on the display? If it is still set to his truck, what would the display show instead of 0? I'd guess "1" but my guessing isn't very reliable. Is this the simplest way to tell in a glance if it is all set to factory, and has the ability to be used on a different vehicle?

 

In the top center of the screen it will show what it is programmed to. 0 is stock. That is what you want to see.
1-2-or-3 means it's still programmed to his truck. Don't let him tell you any different if he tries. There is no reason that it can't be plugged into either truck's ODB port and powered up to see what it's set at.

 

Look at page 22 of the manual.

 

Im not trying to discourage you from purchasing this but if this if for your 2010 it will not recalibrate the trans at all. Also there are a few members on here with this unit on the 2009-2010s that are experiencing pinging problems with this unit.

 

If he is an honest seller, he should let you hook it up to your truck and make sure it loads to your truck before taking the money. When I sold my superchip programmer a few years ago I made sure my buyer was able to load it on his truck before taking his money.

 

I'm not convinced it will work at all if it was used on a Chevy. (Unless you're putting it on a Chevy). I could be VERY wrong, but I think the hardware is vehicle make specific.

- Jack

 

I was thinking the same but after typing in the model number this is what i came up with

This Product Fits The Following Vehicles

1997 - 2002 Ford Expedition 4.6 and 5.4 Liter Triton V8
2000 - 2010 Ford F-150 4.6 and 5.4 Liter Triton V8
1997 - 1999 Ford F-150 and F-250 Light Duty 4.6 and 5.4 Liter Triton V8
2004 - 2004 Ford F-150 Heritage Series 4.6 and 5.4 Liter Triton V8
2009 - 2010 Lincoln Navigator 4.6 and 5.4 Liter Triton V8
2003 - 2004 Isuzu Ascender 5.3L V8 Gas Engine
2003 - 2004 GMC Envoy 5.3L V8 Gas Engine
2003 - 2004 Chevrolet TrailBlazer 5.3L V8 Gas Engine
1999 - 2002 Ford F-250 and F-350 Super Duty 5.4 Liter Triton V8
2003 - 2007 Hummer H2 6.0L V8 Gas Engine
2008 - 2008 Hummer H2 6.2L V8 Gas Engine
2002 - 2011 Chevrolet Avalanche V8 Gas Engine
2001 - 2011 Cadillac Escalade V8 Gas Engine
1999 - 2011 GMC Sierra V8 Gas Engine
2007 - 2007 GMC Sierra Classic V8 Gas Engine
2007 - 2007 GMC Sierra New Body V8 Gas Engine
1999 - 2011 Chevrolet Silverado V8 Gas Engine
2007 - 2007 Chevrolet Silverado Classic V8 Gas Engine
2007 - 2007 Chevrolet Silverado New Body V8 Gas Engine
1999 - 2011 Chevrolet Suburban V8 Gas Engine
1999 - 2011 Chevrolet Tahoe V8 Gas Engine
1999 - 2011 GMC Yukon V8 Gas Engine
2000 - 2011 GMC Yukon XL V8 Gas Engine

 

Pinging? Can you elaborate as to what exactly you mean by this, and the suspected cause... in layman's terms anyways. Why only this unit, and not the others that would cause this? I'd love to pm them, if you happen to know who they are.....

Forgive me... I'm a welding and painting genius, but a motor idiot.

 

Pinging = spark knock - which will require you to use high octane with an 87 tune till you get it fixed.

 

So I phoned Edge on their 1-888-360-3343 number posted on thier site, and spoke with "Trent" about the trans shifting thing. He told me that The CS definitely does adjust trans ajustments, and also offers the user to ajust them further in the custom menu. He said that the 85150 does everything for the 2010, that it did for the 04/08 model. I asked him to confirm and double check. He put me on hold for 90 seconds or so, and came back and said.... "yup it does". He could not confirm or deny whether it was something recent or has been done all along.

Not sure what to make of all that. I find it weird that their technical services rep would flat out lie to me, but what he said is definitely in contradiction to what our great members here report. Perhaps someone with a little more technical know how could call that # and have a more heart to heart with them.

He also told me that Edge is not stopping PHP from doing any trans adjustments with the custom tunes they do. I believe (not accusing ya buddy) that i read that Jack and Janet said in a previous post that PHP could not get permission from edge to do these adjustments. I could be wrong, and if I am, please tell me so. I think I confused myself more by phoning them than I ever could have been if I just left it all alone.

Was Trent lying to me? Or have times changed? Or am I just not smart enough to see the obvious?

 

Edge is supposed to be coming out with an update so that trannies on the + 09's tranny can be tuned weather or not that has been done IDK.....I haven't heard anything from Bill at PHP as of yet and I talked to him two weeks ago.....

The only tuning right now is the motor and the tcm picksup on the changes and it adapts from there....

 

88, ya seem to have a better grasp on the whole concept than I do. Any chance you could call the toll free # I posted and see if you can get a better understanding of what Edge's stance is on this?

 

I'm going to respond to you here, canadian, and I got your PM to me about this too. I'm not in the least offended about your pointing out the seeming confusion in replies you've gotten. The problem is, I don't know "Trent" at Edge and have no idea if he is well-versed in Ford specific questions. They seem to have a team of people, and while generally helpful, I've found they may not ALL be Ford "experts". One of them told me that, by the way, and I don't see it as a liability. I doubt they could afford to pay the number of vehicle specific advisers they'd need.

Now, you got some VERY good advice here in this forum. TRY the programmer in your truck. If it boots properly when plugged in, you're halfway there. Next, try to load a program - I'd suggest the Level 2 tow program, because it's a pretty good all around driving program. Don't try to make any "custom changes" when prompted - this is not the time to get fancy. If the program loads properly, make sure the truck starts and drives - you should hopefully notice an improvement. If you want to buy the programmer, do so and you're done. If not, and if it loaded the tune, use the programmer to set the tune back to Level 0 (stock) before you disconnect the programmer!

Next, regarding transmission modifications: I have heard NOTHING from Bill Cohron at PHP about being able to tune the transmission yet, and frankly, he's the only one I trust to tell me this is now possible. I know Edge was/is working on this capability and Bill feels it can be done, but Edge has been adamant that Bill not do it until THEY give the "go-ahead". I feel confident that the unit will eventually be able to program the TCM, but I'm equally certain that it cannot do so at this time.

I hope I've covered everything you were concerned with here. And, I'm going to try to draw Bill Cohron's attention to this thread. I think it would be good to hear straight from him on this.

- Jack