Cold Air Intakes vs. "A true RAM AIR intake/hood
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Cold Air Intakes vs. "A true RAM AIR intake/hood
Any info on this would be great.
I think I have a couple pretty good questions. I just picked up a '07 F150 5.4 3v and I've been looking at CAI's vs. a true ram air hood and all. I'm looking to get the most performance out of my truck with out getting to crazy.
Here are my questions:
1. Does a CAI work best on just the take off/launch?
2. Does a CAI loose power in summer heat because it's sucking in hot air?
3. Does a ram air hood act the same as a CAI?
4. I was under the impression that ram air would produce more power becuase it's literly forcing air into the engin where a CAI is technicaly pulling air in?
5. Does ram air only start working at high speeds?
Ok so I guess the real questions is do people put in a CAI because it's cheaper than a ram air system? Or is there a distink advantage over one vs the other?
Sorry. One more question. Is there a magical combination in CAI/Ram Air, tuners, exhausts, that people have found to produce good HP/TQ.
Thanks in advance for you responses.
I think I have a couple pretty good questions. I just picked up a '07 F150 5.4 3v and I've been looking at CAI's vs. a true ram air hood and all. I'm looking to get the most performance out of my truck with out getting to crazy.
Here are my questions:
1. Does a CAI work best on just the take off/launch?
2. Does a CAI loose power in summer heat because it's sucking in hot air?
3. Does a ram air hood act the same as a CAI?
4. I was under the impression that ram air would produce more power becuase it's literly forcing air into the engin where a CAI is technicaly pulling air in?
5. Does ram air only start working at high speeds?
Ok so I guess the real questions is do people put in a CAI because it's cheaper than a ram air system? Or is there a distink advantage over one vs the other?
Sorry. One more question. Is there a magical combination in CAI/Ram Air, tuners, exhausts, that people have found to produce good HP/TQ.
Thanks in advance for you responses.
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Hi.
Yup - good questions, and there's plenty of good answers to those good questions already here.
Briefly, my take - and of course these things are endlessly debatable ....
> A CAI works all the time.
> A CAI of any type will increase IAT's at idle - some more than others - material is also important - Aluminum is the worst.
> A CAI of any type will register near-ambient IAT's at speed - there is a lot of open space in that engine compartment (open hood & look down).
> IAT, while a factor, is not the differentiating variable to making good power - proper design, proper understanding of what works on these trucks, and depending upon model, tuning is.
> A true Ram-Air system is too risky on these trucks - it tends to lean out the motor the faster you go, and is very, very difficult to compensate for via custom tuning without a LOT of dyno time. Even then, the variables can conspire against you.
> The 'Magic' combo: SCT Xcal2 with Troyer Performance custom tuning + AirForceOne 3.5" intake + Magnaflow 3" SISO SS catback. Can be purchased as a 'combo' - good deal - proven results. Called a Stage 1.
You can search for much more detail on each of your questions ... this has all been covered before, in depth, many times ...
As an example, here's a good thread on Ram-Air: https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...light=ram+lean
Good luck.
cheers
Bubba
Yup - good questions, and there's plenty of good answers to those good questions already here.
Briefly, my take - and of course these things are endlessly debatable ....
> A CAI works all the time.
> A CAI of any type will increase IAT's at idle - some more than others - material is also important - Aluminum is the worst.
> A CAI of any type will register near-ambient IAT's at speed - there is a lot of open space in that engine compartment (open hood & look down).
> IAT, while a factor, is not the differentiating variable to making good power - proper design, proper understanding of what works on these trucks, and depending upon model, tuning is.
> A true Ram-Air system is too risky on these trucks - it tends to lean out the motor the faster you go, and is very, very difficult to compensate for via custom tuning without a LOT of dyno time. Even then, the variables can conspire against you.
> The 'Magic' combo: SCT Xcal2 with Troyer Performance custom tuning + AirForceOne 3.5" intake + Magnaflow 3" SISO SS catback. Can be purchased as a 'combo' - good deal - proven results. Called a Stage 1.
You can search for much more detail on each of your questions ... this has all been covered before, in depth, many times ...
As an example, here's a good thread on Ram-Air: https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...light=ram+lean
Good luck.
cheers
Bubba
Last edited by MGDfan; 05-16-2007 at 10:33 AM.
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Originally Posted by MGDfan
Briefly, my take - and of course these things are endlessly debatable ....
Originally Posted by JPRempe
Ram Air intakes/hoods will absolutely not lean out any stock motor in the Ford lineup. It's really more of a gimmick than an actual gain (at normal speeds).
With respect, I'll defer to Mike Troyer's vast experience in tuning & improving the F150 platform.
Thanks.
Cheers
bubba
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The only ram-air hood I was able to find for the 2004+ F150s actually just funnels the air into the standard Airraid cold-air intake.
With that being said, ram-air hoods look awesome, if they function (not just a bolt on thing like the Roush, then that's an extra "cool factor"... but whether it would provide a HP benefit above just a standard CAI, well, I'll leave that to the experts (i.e. Troyer)
With that being said, ram-air hoods look awesome, if they function (not just a bolt on thing like the Roush, then that's an extra "cool factor"... but whether it would provide a HP benefit above just a standard CAI, well, I'll leave that to the experts (i.e. Troyer)
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