pacesetter long tube headers
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worked fine for me. i have a 97 F-150 4.6L 2wd the only prob i had was i had to plug the EGR as the EGR bung for the 5.4L is bigger.
took me a weekend but i had lmited tools and was doing it by my self.
one of my buddys did it in 2 hours.
i got mine for 289 bucks pacesetter quick trip longtubes.
Love mine good luck!
took me a weekend but i had lmited tools and was doing it by my self.
one of my buddys did it in 2 hours.
i got mine for 289 bucks pacesetter quick trip longtubes.
Love mine good luck!
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worked fine for me. i have a 97 F-150 4.6L 2wd the only prob i had was i had to plug the EGR as the EGR bung for the 5.4L is bigger.
took me a weekend but i had lmited tools and was doing it by my self.
one of my buddys did it in 2 hours.
i got mine for 289 bucks pacesetter quick trip longtubes.
Love mine good luck!
took me a weekend but i had lmited tools and was doing it by my self.
one of my buddys did it in 2 hours.
i got mine for 289 bucks pacesetter quick trip longtubes.
Love mine good luck!
#4
i just bought a 3/4" cap and caped off the header bung then got a 1/2" cap and caped off the EGR valve and took the EGR pipe out. Then with a programmer programed my EGR Delete so theres no CEL
No i didnt jack up the motor, remove the starter, remove A/C stuff or mess with steering.
i took the tires off and the interfenders off and could get right to it.
good luck. oh and pacesetter headers use a 12 point 8 MM or 10 MM bolts for there header bolts had to go out and buy some 12 point sockets.
No i didnt jack up the motor, remove the starter, remove A/C stuff or mess with steering.
i took the tires off and the interfenders off and could get right to it.
good luck. oh and pacesetter headers use a 12 point 8 MM or 10 MM bolts for there header bolts had to go out and buy some 12 point sockets.
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You can get an adapter for the EGR but i couldnt fine one anywere!
or you can do what my buddy did and took a short chunk of heater hose and put it on the Bung on the Headers and clamped it then put it on the pipe and clamped it. no codes and no leaks.
As for the starter yes they do clear. its pretty tight and when i frist put them in i wasnt paying attention and left the starter big B+ wire to close to the header a few weeks later melted the wire and shorted my starter and batt.
if you take the starter out and put the longtubes on it makes it more of a PITA to get the starter back in. ive had my starter out with stock manifolds....pretty easy. Shortys about the same. and had to take it out with longtubes and with the longtubes it was a PITA i would have been pissed had i installed my longtubes and had to reinstall my starter.
Everything will clear many people have done this. Me, Jbrew, my buddy masterbeatty. all use pacesetter longtubes with no probs. im sure there are others but thats off the top of my head.
or you can do what my buddy did and took a short chunk of heater hose and put it on the Bung on the Headers and clamped it then put it on the pipe and clamped it. no codes and no leaks.
As for the starter yes they do clear. its pretty tight and when i frist put them in i wasnt paying attention and left the starter big B+ wire to close to the header a few weeks later melted the wire and shorted my starter and batt.
if you take the starter out and put the longtubes on it makes it more of a PITA to get the starter back in. ive had my starter out with stock manifolds....pretty easy. Shortys about the same. and had to take it out with longtubes and with the longtubes it was a PITA i would have been pissed had i installed my longtubes and had to reinstall my starter.
Everything will clear many people have done this. Me, Jbrew, my buddy masterbeatty. all use pacesetter longtubes with no probs. im sure there are others but thats off the top of my head.
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thats more then enogh time. taking off the shortys i had on there. cleaning on the threads. putting the headers up there. *Make sure u take the heat sheilds off* then getting the angle right onto the head. and i think i drove around for 3-4 hours lookin for the EGR adapater. went to a few local hardweres. 2 home depots and a lowes. no luck. and also my socket set and wrench set isnt the greatest. and it was just me working on it for 2 days. i wanna say it prob took a soild 8 hoursish.
But i highly reccomend this you wont regret it.
But i highly reccomend this you wont regret it.
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yeah the jet coating is sweet. but i just went out and bought some VHT paint 1500+* paint used brake clean and wire brushes and striped the header paint off and painted them worked pretty good. i didnt have the money for jet coating.
Power was night and day. even thoe i had 3" true duals out of the hole my truck would bark the tires from a stop from idle to WOT no stalling the converter or anything. i went from manifolds to shortys. not much there shortys to longtubes Holy crap!!! you will not regret it. its not to bad at all to do.
Yes heater hose with just clamps you tighten with a screwdriver. worked fine no leaks for him.
ill find my install thread for you its a pretty good read up Jbrew helped alot as always
here ya go on page 3 were the fun starts. lots of good tips in there. you will not regret this!
https://www.f150online.com/forums/ex...2-morro-3.html
were you live at? if your close enogh ill swing by and help ya out im about 15 miles from detroit mich.
Power was night and day. even thoe i had 3" true duals out of the hole my truck would bark the tires from a stop from idle to WOT no stalling the converter or anything. i went from manifolds to shortys. not much there shortys to longtubes Holy crap!!! you will not regret it. its not to bad at all to do.
Yes heater hose with just clamps you tighten with a screwdriver. worked fine no leaks for him.
ill find my install thread for you its a pretty good read up Jbrew helped alot as always
here ya go on page 3 were the fun starts. lots of good tips in there. you will not regret this!
https://www.f150online.com/forums/ex...2-morro-3.html
were you live at? if your close enogh ill swing by and help ya out im about 15 miles from detroit mich.
Last edited by shifty_85; 10-26-2009 at 04:37 AM.
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yeah the jet coating is sweet. but i just went out and bought some VHT paint 1500+* paint used brake clean and wire brushes and striped the header paint off and painted them worked pretty good. i didnt have the money for jet coating.
Power was night and day. even thoe i had 3" true duals out of the hole my truck would bark the tires from a stop from idle to WOT no stalling the converter or anything. i went from manifolds to shortys. not much there shortys to longtubes Holy crap!!! you will not regret it. its not to bad at all to do.
Yes heater hose with just clamps you tighten with a screwdriver. worked fine no leaks for him.
ill find my install thread for you its a pretty good read up Jbrew helped alot as always
here ya go on page 3 were the fun starts. lots of good tips in there. you will not regret this!
https://www.f150online.com/forums/ex...2-morro-3.html
were you live at? if your close enogh ill swing by and help ya out im about 15 miles from detroit mich.
Power was night and day. even thoe i had 3" true duals out of the hole my truck would bark the tires from a stop from idle to WOT no stalling the converter or anything. i went from manifolds to shortys. not much there shortys to longtubes Holy crap!!! you will not regret it. its not to bad at all to do.
Yes heater hose with just clamps you tighten with a screwdriver. worked fine no leaks for him.
ill find my install thread for you its a pretty good read up Jbrew helped alot as always
here ya go on page 3 were the fun starts. lots of good tips in there. you will not regret this!
https://www.f150online.com/forums/ex...2-morro-3.html
were you live at? if your close enogh ill swing by and help ya out im about 15 miles from detroit mich.
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yeah SC is kind of a hike. went to paris island when my bro grad. from the marines. it was pretty fun.
97-03 should be the same. as long as the deck heght and fire wall angles are the same thats all that matters.
The ad says 97-03 F-150 4.6L / 5.4L 2 or 4wd. They'll fit i worked on an 01 F-150 not to long ago and looked. also a buddy has an 03 looks like the same manifolds i had same place and my headers would like right at home in there.
they'll fit you got this.
Hope my thread helped ya out a lil.
again good luck and you wont regret it!
97-03 should be the same. as long as the deck heght and fire wall angles are the same thats all that matters.
The ad says 97-03 F-150 4.6L / 5.4L 2 or 4wd. They'll fit i worked on an 01 F-150 not to long ago and looked. also a buddy has an 03 looks like the same manifolds i had same place and my headers would like right at home in there.
they'll fit you got this.
Hope my thread helped ya out a lil.
again good luck and you wont regret it!
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Nope no leaks no cracks nothing. rust but thats to be expected from carbon 14 gauge steel.
Pacsetters Longtubes are also the longest set of longtubes between the 3 Dynatech/pacestter/OBX dynatech longtubes are 1,000 because they are stainless. OBX wants 340 because there stainless but very poorly designed i hear of welds cracking all the time on them. plus there made in china.
Support the ecnomey pacesetters are built in the good ole US of A
Glad i could help ya out.
Also i had pacesetter shortys on my truck before. lasted 2 years threw michigan winters and salt and snow. ya they were rusted but never leaked at all. and i even sold them to a guy on here and hes still running them!!!! ill get you his name too.
My longtubes are coming up on a year and not one prob.
Also do ur self a favor and get new front o2's while you have the old ones out. i saw my mileage go from 16 on factory o2s and longtubes to 20MPG CITY with brand new denso o2's in the front. Just my .2 cents
Also how are you at wiring? pacesetter will send in that kit enogh butt connecters for both o2's but only enogh wire for one side.
some sites sell o2 excutions you will need 15" or longer if you go that route. alot easyer than rewiring the o2's but you gotta wait for them. so if you have some wire laying around i think 12Ga is plenty i forget what we used. just dont get the wires mixed up do one at a time.
Also pacesetter has a 3 year warenty on all of there headers.
https://www.f150online.com/forums/me...ord99f150.html
Thats the guy who is still running my shortys.
here are the o2 extentions i know i said 15" but these 12" will reach just fine.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/BBK-1676/#
If you havnt orderd the headers yet or are waiting on shipping i would order those well worth the 35 bucks. and they will most likey be there 2 morro.
Pacsetters Longtubes are also the longest set of longtubes between the 3 Dynatech/pacestter/OBX dynatech longtubes are 1,000 because they are stainless. OBX wants 340 because there stainless but very poorly designed i hear of welds cracking all the time on them. plus there made in china.
Support the ecnomey pacesetters are built in the good ole US of A
Glad i could help ya out.
Also i had pacesetter shortys on my truck before. lasted 2 years threw michigan winters and salt and snow. ya they were rusted but never leaked at all. and i even sold them to a guy on here and hes still running them!!!! ill get you his name too.
My longtubes are coming up on a year and not one prob.
Also do ur self a favor and get new front o2's while you have the old ones out. i saw my mileage go from 16 on factory o2s and longtubes to 20MPG CITY with brand new denso o2's in the front. Just my .2 cents
Also how are you at wiring? pacesetter will send in that kit enogh butt connecters for both o2's but only enogh wire for one side.
some sites sell o2 excutions you will need 15" or longer if you go that route. alot easyer than rewiring the o2's but you gotta wait for them. so if you have some wire laying around i think 12Ga is plenty i forget what we used. just dont get the wires mixed up do one at a time.
Also pacesetter has a 3 year warenty on all of there headers.
https://www.f150online.com/forums/me...ord99f150.html
Thats the guy who is still running my shortys.
here are the o2 extentions i know i said 15" but these 12" will reach just fine.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/BBK-1676/#
If you havnt orderd the headers yet or are waiting on shipping i would order those well worth the 35 bucks. and they will most likey be there 2 morro.
Last edited by shifty_85; 10-27-2009 at 01:45 PM.
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