Lucked out on a K&N intake 77 Series
#31
Congrats on the good deal. I have no comment on the heat issue from the aluminum pipe.
I have had the K&N FIPK "The one with the plastic pipe" for 5 years now on my '04 3v 5.4.
I can vouch for the lean condition on the stock tune. Also a little rougher idle. I ran it like that for a couple years and didn't blow it up and it ran good.
I since have got a custom tune for the K&N on a Superchips tuner. This did make a huge difference in performance and now I know its safe.
If you know of someone local to you with a dyno, take it to him and ask him to run it to check your air/fuel ratio to be safe. Thats what I did and had an eye opener.
I installed my K&N and got the same negative comments from others as you have. I did some reading and then learned about the lean condition created by the CAI.
Good Luck
I have had the K&N FIPK "The one with the plastic pipe" for 5 years now on my '04 3v 5.4.
I can vouch for the lean condition on the stock tune. Also a little rougher idle. I ran it like that for a couple years and didn't blow it up and it ran good.
I since have got a custom tune for the K&N on a Superchips tuner. This did make a huge difference in performance and now I know its safe.
If you know of someone local to you with a dyno, take it to him and ask him to run it to check your air/fuel ratio to be safe. Thats what I did and had an eye opener.
I installed my K&N and got the same negative comments from others as you have. I did some reading and then learned about the lean condition created by the CAI.
Good Luck
#32
#33
Agreed! I wasnt looking for 30hp to the wheels. Like I said before, I got a good deal, cleaned up the engine bay and got to put a aftermarket part on my truck. I'm as happy as can be.
#34
Enjoy. The truck looks good and really cleans up the engine bay for sure.
Don't worry about the comments. There are the usual 5 or 6 that have all of the knowledge and are quick to pass it on.
The comments about the "warm air intake" are unfounded. The stock intakes are not "cold air intakes". Just get a scanguage and monitor intake temps on a stock vehicle. All pull in hot air until the vehicle is moving, then regardless of type of intake, the temps all drop down to the same.
And how soon we forget that for years, all intakes were made of metal. Plastic only started as a weight saving measure, and ease of production.
So enjoy.
Don't worry about the comments. There are the usual 5 or 6 that have all of the knowledge and are quick to pass it on.
The comments about the "warm air intake" are unfounded. The stock intakes are not "cold air intakes". Just get a scanguage and monitor intake temps on a stock vehicle. All pull in hot air until the vehicle is moving, then regardless of type of intake, the temps all drop down to the same.
And how soon we forget that for years, all intakes were made of metal. Plastic only started as a weight saving measure, and ease of production.
So enjoy.
#35
Thanks bro I really appreciate the support. I think it looks clean and sounds great! As for the HID kit I also swiped those off of Craigslist BRAND NEW for $50 bucks. ( I'll probably get knocked down for that too ) They are a cheper brand "XENTEC" 10,000k and I love them. I've never had any problems with them and they were all plug and play. Thanks again
#36
Nope. O4+ 3V's.
Adjusted tunes to address the CEL threshold, for a stock intake, but they still cannot and do not account for MAF venturi changes incurred by a tube geometry change.
This is well-known, well-documented, and well-discussed (a sample of which is evident in my previous post).
Only direct measurement can tell you with certainty.
MGD
#37
Nope. O4+ 3V's.
Adjusted tunes to address the CEL threshold, for a stock intake, but they still cannot and do not account for MAF venturi changes incurred by a tube geometry change.
This is well-known, well-documented, and well-discussed (a sample of which is evident in my previous post).
Only direct measurement can tell you with certainty.
MGD
Adjusted tunes to address the CEL threshold, for a stock intake, but they still cannot and do not account for MAF venturi changes incurred by a tube geometry change.
This is well-known, well-documented, and well-discussed (a sample of which is evident in my previous post).
Only direct measurement can tell you with certainty.
MGD
#38
Nope. O4+ 3V's.
Adjusted tunes to address the CEL threshold, for a stock intake, but they still cannot and do not account for MAF venturi changes incurred by a tube geometry change.
This is well-known, well-documented, and well-discussed (a sample of which is evident in my previous post).
Only direct measurement can tell you with certainty.
MGD
Adjusted tunes to address the CEL threshold, for a stock intake, but they still cannot and do not account for MAF venturi changes incurred by a tube geometry change.
This is well-known, well-documented, and well-discussed (a sample of which is evident in my previous post).
Only direct measurement can tell you with certainty.
MGD
#39
There is no way for that OEM MAF TF to accomodate any changes to same that an aftermarket Washoobi will impact. The tuners are quite clear on this point - TP, VMP and PHP - even for '09-'10 trucks.
This forum is full of info related to this. It's the reason even canned tuners include some MAF TF-corrected tunes for selected Washoobi's - Superchips & Diablo as examples. For all MY trucks with slot-style MAF's.
MGD
#40
Buddy - again - the revised calibrations are intended for stock intakes only, where the OEM MAF Transfer Function is already known.
There is no way for that OEM MAF TF to accomodate any changes to same that an aftermarket Washoobi will impact. The tuners are quite clear on this point - TP, VMP and PHP - even for '09-'10 trucks.
This forum is full of info related to this. It's the reason even canned tuners include some MAF TF-corrected tunes for selected Washoobi's - Superchips & Diablo as examples. For all MY trucks with slot-style MAF's.
MGD
There is no way for that OEM MAF TF to accomodate any changes to same that an aftermarket Washoobi will impact. The tuners are quite clear on this point - TP, VMP and PHP - even for '09-'10 trucks.
This forum is full of info related to this. It's the reason even canned tuners include some MAF TF-corrected tunes for selected Washoobi's - Superchips & Diablo as examples. For all MY trucks with slot-style MAF's.
MGD
#41
Interesting?
#43
Well ... if it means much ... you likely reduced air intake restrictions from what they were when the stock filter and intake tube were in place, and it shines. You have an '07 and there's some evidence no harm will come... and so if your happy, maybe all's well.
Just be ready to clean that MAF sensor.
Just be ready to clean that MAF sensor.
Last edited by tbear853; 12-21-2010 at 08:12 PM.
#44
Well ... if it means much ... you likely reduced air intake restrictions from what they were when the stock filter and intake tube were in place, and it shines. You have an '07 and there's some evidence no harm will come... and so if your happy, maybe all's well.
Just be ready to clean that MAF sensor.
Just be ready to clean that MAF sensor.
#45