Exhaust and Headers
#31
10-12-2012 | 03:58 PM
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#32
10-12-2012 | 04:03 PM
That aint bad.I am gonna lift it with 35 inch tires to so its gonna be noisey inside.I really like you sound alot,now I know if you coasting it wont have any rumble but if you hold speady gas like down a high way or put cruise on will it have that steady rumble ? And you were saying that super 44 should be a little louder then that ? I guess what Iv been wanting and I most likely wont get is someone to tell me everything I need and post a video and if I like it I could do out and get it lol
#34
10-12-2012 | 05:33 PM
If you have not yet ordered a muffler, I will push for the Borla XR-1 muffler. Not because it is quiet, it isn't by any means, if anything it is just more tame inside than the Flowmaster chambered unit. However, if you really want to try the Flowmaster, go for it. You are only taking our advice on here. You will never really know until you find out for yourself.
#35
10-12-2012 | 06:05 PM
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A couple of FYI's
1. Removing the cats will really not gain much power.
2. Even though you are exempt from inspections, you are not exempt from the requirement to have them- even US Fish & Game Wardens carry a manual that identifies each vehicle and the required smog equipment, illegal engines changes, etc with pics of how to ID.
3. Any law enforcement officer (including fish & game), EPA inspector, etc. can impound the vehicle and cite it as a gross polluter
4. Once cited, a judge will decide if the vehicle is to be scrapped or returned to the owner- and you do not have any opportunity to speak in court- just required to sit & listen.
5. if the vehicle is returned- guess what, now you have to repair and take the vehicle to a federal referee station for the rest of "its life" for a smog inspection & test.
IMHO, it's not worth the risk versus the little gain.
1. Removing the cats will really not gain much power.
2. Even though you are exempt from inspections, you are not exempt from the requirement to have them- even US Fish & Game Wardens carry a manual that identifies each vehicle and the required smog equipment, illegal engines changes, etc with pics of how to ID.
3. Any law enforcement officer (including fish & game), EPA inspector, etc. can impound the vehicle and cite it as a gross polluter
4. Once cited, a judge will decide if the vehicle is to be scrapped or returned to the owner- and you do not have any opportunity to speak in court- just required to sit & listen.
5. if the vehicle is returned- guess what, now you have to repair and take the vehicle to a federal referee station for the rest of "its life" for a smog inspection & test.
IMHO, it's not worth the risk versus the little gain.
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10-14-2012 | 09:37 AM
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#39
10-14-2012 | 10:29 AM
I liked that sound alot.but if I did everything I wanted to but added the Borla XR-1 muffler instead of the Super 44 would I still get kinda that same sound.or should I just order the complete pipes and all from Borla and just do my headers and Y pipes I wanted to do ?
#41
10-14-2012 | 11:11 PM
By sticking with a straight through muffler. The chambered muffler will have the hollow and raspy barky sound and the straight through will have the deeper toned, cleaner grunt to it. Going with the part #40941 XR-1s like he has will aid you the same sound, but being yours will be cat-less, yours will have even more volume.
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10-15-2012 | 07:19 AM
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10-15-2012 | 03:53 PM
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By sticking with a straight through muffler. The chambered muffler will have the hollow and raspy barky sound and the straight through will have the deeper toned, cleaner grunt to it. Going with the part #40941 XR-1s like he has will aid you the same sound, but being yours will be cat-less, yours will have even more volume.
#45
10-20-2012 | 04:51 PM
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For sound and performance both, -
Corsa
Borla
Magnaflow
Borla or Corsa for me. I've heard many and like those two best. They sound great all the way thru the powerband with the least drone at cruising speeds, in my opinion of course.
A Mustang Mag had a shoot out not to long ago, Borla ran away with it as far as performance from what I recall. There were two Borlas tested in this shootout and Borla captured first and second place. - Track and Dyno.
Search muffler shoot out or results, -performance and sound. Search You Tube as well. You'll have that common knowledge in no time.
Differences between the a Straight thru design and a Flowmaster, -
About 6 seconds lol. I did a video comparison with a Flowmaster 50 series and a Magnaflow race series and timed it in such a way were you could time it yourself. To be fair to Flowmaster, I should mention I added headers before the second run with the Magnaflow. Yea, that made a difference for sure.
nw150 mentioned that the Flowmaster didn't perform any worse than a straight thru design. Well they do, that's been proven in the past. UNLESS they have redesigned they're muffler, it still stands. However, the question I had back then, - was that difference even noticeable enough to matter ? That seemed more important. Dyno data, -Flowmaster didn't seem to be drastically far out from the rest. So it's possible, that the normal Joe won't even notice a torque/power difference.
That said, I also re-installed the Flowmaster with the headers. Wanted to see how it sounded with headers. Well, it did sound pretty good just above idle. The 5four sounded like a 5.0 GT, under power on the low side, but that's all the credit you can give it. With the Flowmaster you had to power thru the low end and it noticeably would take it's time where with the Magnaflow, you shoot right thru it. Taking off from the light empty and under normal acceleration, your about two truck lengths ahead of traffic. With the Flowmaster, your on the power just to keep up with traffic. But hey, it didn't sound bad with all that. What you get sick of in a hurry is the drone @ cruising. -Gets old fast. I swapped back to the Magnaflow at that point. That was years ago. One other thing, that Magnaflow still looks brand new after washing the undercarriage.
BTW- A little tip, don't leave a Flowmaster outside shop, like say along the side or in back of it. Better off just tossing it. Varmints/critters that wonder into that thing can't seem to find they're way out. So if you notice a rank smell coming from somewhere outside the shop, check that Flowmaster, with caution.
Corsa
Borla
Magnaflow
Borla or Corsa for me. I've heard many and like those two best. They sound great all the way thru the powerband with the least drone at cruising speeds, in my opinion of course.
A Mustang Mag had a shoot out not to long ago, Borla ran away with it as far as performance from what I recall. There were two Borlas tested in this shootout and Borla captured first and second place. - Track and Dyno.
Search muffler shoot out or results, -performance and sound. Search You Tube as well. You'll have that common knowledge in no time.
Differences between the a Straight thru design and a Flowmaster, -
About 6 seconds lol. I did a video comparison with a Flowmaster 50 series and a Magnaflow race series and timed it in such a way were you could time it yourself. To be fair to Flowmaster, I should mention I added headers before the second run with the Magnaflow. Yea, that made a difference for sure.
nw150 mentioned that the Flowmaster didn't perform any worse than a straight thru design. Well they do, that's been proven in the past. UNLESS they have redesigned they're muffler, it still stands. However, the question I had back then, - was that difference even noticeable enough to matter ? That seemed more important. Dyno data, -Flowmaster didn't seem to be drastically far out from the rest. So it's possible, that the normal Joe won't even notice a torque/power difference.
That said, I also re-installed the Flowmaster with the headers. Wanted to see how it sounded with headers. Well, it did sound pretty good just above idle. The 5four sounded like a 5.0 GT, under power on the low side, but that's all the credit you can give it. With the Flowmaster you had to power thru the low end and it noticeably would take it's time where with the Magnaflow, you shoot right thru it. Taking off from the light empty and under normal acceleration, your about two truck lengths ahead of traffic. With the Flowmaster, your on the power just to keep up with traffic. But hey, it didn't sound bad with all that. What you get sick of in a hurry is the drone @ cruising. -Gets old fast. I swapped back to the Magnaflow at that point. That was years ago. One other thing, that Magnaflow still looks brand new after washing the undercarriage.
BTW- A little tip, don't leave a Flowmaster outside shop, like say along the side or in back of it. Better off just tossing it. Varmints/critters that wonder into that thing can't seem to find they're way out. So if you notice a rank smell coming from somewhere outside the shop, check that Flowmaster, with caution.
I'll say it again, until you give me actual proof, you're nothing but words.