Wonder how many guys have seen this?

2009 F-150 Dyno Runs


Bill at PHP did some dyno testing on a 2009 F-150 in the beginning of the year. The numbers are pretty impressive, especially if you are familiar with the prior generation (04-08) HP/TQ curves.So, if Bill can gain ~7 HP/TQ by removing the snorkel section of the airbox...would that work on the Expy as well?


I think so, but I'd like to see what others have to think about this.

 

I'm gonna follow this thread for my 08. It seems like it would make sense.

 

The expedition 07 to 08 uses a 6R75 vs 6R80. There are differences, I believe clutch packs and the capacity of the expedition is 4 quarts or so less then the F-150.

I can't believe that a 09 will only put down 225 hp stock, that's pretty weak if you as me. At least Fords Transmission guys are make up for the slack the engine guys are leaving.

 

6R80 - 11 qts
6R75 - 11 qts


thanks for the clarification. I tried finding out the other differences between them...but got nothing

oh well. at least I know the name of the tranny now

 

Correct, but the 6R80 in the F-150 hold more fluid then the expedition as stated in my first post. Not sure if it's the pan or cooler. Also, the 6R75 has a update out to remove the trans and replace the 3rd gear clutch pack set up. Not sure if this is to a 6R80 standard or just a build issue.

 

I have to agree, I just picked up an 07 expy for my wife today w/the 6spd tranny and the little suv on the squigley lines by the hazard button off (lite on dash comes on) it still doesn't pull anywhere near as hard as my lifted souped up titan crew cab 4wd on 35x20"s lol. much nicer ride tho if I do say so myself. my shox are blown on the titan for sure in front. but all around its a comfy car. can't wait to get it stacked, I found some diamo 22"s on CL locally for $450 gonna offer him $400 should be checking them out tomorrow. and will be getting either a dual exhaust or touch screen alpine dvd tomorrow as well ANYway, why not just get an entire aftermarket intake? do these guys throw codes like the airforce's on the F150s? my buddy has an F1 that's why I ask... I can't wait to get a programmer intake and exhaust on this thing along with wheels/tires and the stereo, I can't stand driving stock vehicles ick...

 

I'd like to tell you guys it works...but I haven't seen my Expy in 2+ weeks to try the airbox thingy

@HBH-Tom...the tranny in all the 2004+ Fords is adaptive. It learns your driving style, and adjusts shift patterns accordingly. Sounds like the prior owner might have driven it granny style.

When I turned off the RSC on my Expy, it would get up and scoot. I was actually impressed that my EL could move like that...especially as it is easily 6,500 lbs if not more



I'd like to get some technical info answered, but the guys at PHP won't answer their forums...nor their e-mails.


I'm beginning to think I'll stop recommending them to people. They've got a potential customer with me, but can't find the time to respond...oh well, other tuners are out there.

 

will this work on my 05 like does on the f150's

 

sort of


The 04-08 F-150 has a different airbox and intake setup from the 07+ Expy, and 09+ F-150.

But there is a small tube between the airbox and the fender vent




Search the 04-08 F-150 forum. There is a DIY airbox mod...but the name of it escapes me right now. Basically involves removing that little section and replacing it with a section of 3" PVC tubing

 

i'm sorry i meant on my 05 expy

 

which motor?

5.4 3v or the 5.4 2v?

and got a picture of the engine bay...specifically the airbox? I'd have to see it to be able to tell ya



btw, the mod is called the Gotts mod for the F-150

 

5.4 3v with k&n drop in

 

I think u have a silencer inside ur tube jjntj2003, http :// www. f150 forum .com /showthread. php?t=9830 see that thread and go check ur intake, I actually wasn't sure what all the 07+ had so I went out and pulled the intake off to check. I may remove the snorkel, I looked at it tho and it's gotta be like almost 2" so really I'll be letting more air in, but it'll be warm air.. so just debating if I wanna do that. or just replace the snorkel with something a little larger, I just have to remove the lower portion and see how big a pipe I can stuff thru the fender hole or if I'll have to make it bigger LOL. I don't really have a problem cutting a hole large enough to stick a subwoofer 3" flared aeroport thru it I did notice the MAF side of the box had a flare which is good



I actually have 4" ones laying around I could mod to make work, but imo that much more airflow won't do much going into the stock box with a panel filter. I also figure I can replace the entire intake tube after the MAF with a 3" tube as imo the main concern for the MAF is the neck it's on remains the same as to not *** with A/F ratio. something u could fix with a custom tune anyway. but yeah, I don't see a problem replacing the stock tube with a straight and elbow piece to get rid of the six silencer cavities that probably create turbulence and fak with velocity a little so after looking at the intake more, I think the K&N could easily gain a few poines over the stock pos... but I'd still rather wait for something else as I don't care for K&N LOL