OK, here is the whole shpeel(sp?). I have been looking to get an f150 for the past many months. I've learned like everything I know from this board, very helpful. I have recently been looking to get the SuperCrew. While reading that discussion someone mentioned that the 250 CC is priced about the same. So I looked into that. Price looks good nicely spec'd. So here is the deal I did test drive one a month or so ago and liked the ride over all. However it was a short ride. I am wondering how everyone else feels about the ride & handling of the truck (Tina mainly, since I know she has a CC & has kid(s) who ride in it.) I want a truck with a nice ride. I am going to go out (this weekend hopefully) & test drive a CC (drove a SC last time). But I wanted to get some feedback first so I could know specifically what things to check when driving. As I have mentioned before this is my first car/truck so I want to make sure everything is just how I want it, & that I won't be dissapointed.

I would be getting the 5.4L v8, 4.10. Should I get the v10? Will it eat a ton more gas? I won't be hauling heavy loads or pulling a trailer. I know that I could do just fine with a 150, but like the CC of the 250 for the same money.

Also does the 250 come with Autolamp when you order powerseat?

Thanks for any input.

P.S: Sorry if it seems like I am jumping back & forth between all the trucks here but it's because of this board =] I just keep learning so much stuff that I didn't know before so I have to keep re-evaluating my decision. I'm getting very frusterated with all of this data jumping around in my head trying to decide what to do.


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quzax@my-f150.com
My-F150.com (coming soon)

[This message has been edited by quzax (edited 03-29-2000).]

 

With a 173 in wheel base, the SD CC rides like a luxury car. If you are not hauling heavy loads or towing, run 50PSI in all 4 tires to improve your ride.
My 6.8l V-10 experiences indicates the same mileage as the 5.4l V-8, from the various posts I've read.
When I get together with friends for a night out, they drive their Mercedes to my house so they can ride in, what they call, "the luxury truck".
I'm sure you'll like it.

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1999 F-250 XLT Super Duty Crew Cab Long Bed
V-10, Automatic 4R100, 4.30 Limited Slip.
GVW = 6700# Towing Capacity = 13,300#
4 Wheel ABS disks + Reese 15K hitch
Dark Hunter Green. Ford Running Boards.
Grey Rhino-Liner. Captain's Chairs. CD+Tape
Polished Stainless Steel Wheel-well Molding http://members.home.net/jchartier/jnctrk.html

 

quzax,

I own a 2000 F-250 SD Crew Cab Lariat Short Bed Auto V-10 w/ 3.73 LS.

I love my truck. For a 3/4 ton truck the ride is great. It's not a nice as the Expedition we had, but I think it's as good if not better than the Explorer I had.

The SuperCrew (F-150 Crew Cab) is nice and based off a short SuperCab. With the SuperDuty having a longer wheel base that will help offset the heavier springs the 3/4 ton uses over the 1/2 ton.

As for your thoughts on gears for a SD. Unless you are looking for towing/hauling power over fuel economy or installing taller tires, I'd think truce about the 4.10's.

In my V-10 I have the 3.73 LS and as long as I drive it reasonable on trips I get better than 15.5 average, and have achieved as high as 16.7 on two different occasions. My worst local/short trip tank was 10.4, and my overall 10,620 mile average is 14.6 MPG.

The SuperCrew will likely beat the SuperDuty as the SD is a heavier truck (and not as aerodynamic).

I love my SD and wouldn't buy the F-150. The SD is styled much nicer (I think the F-150 styling is a little on the girly side (sorry Ladies).

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Thanks,
Will

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2000 F-250 SD Crew Cab, Short Bed, Lariat, 4X2, V-10, Auto, 3.73LS

 

About engine size. I chose the F250 Supercab with the new 5.4L (260 HP)and 3.73 because it was more than adequate for my needs and it really has a lot of get up and go. It tows my 24 foot trailer (about 4300 pounds)great but.... that being said, I believe I might would go to the V10 in your case because of the Crew Cab. I would have gone up if I had gotten 4X4 for instance, or Crew Cab like you are thinking. I think the gas thing will even out at that point. Don't get me wrong the 5.4L 260 HP version is a work horse and mine got as good a gas milage towing as it did not (at least in my fist two tank checks). 13.8 not towing and 13.9 towing some (all mixed driving in a hilly area). But I have ony put 1K on it so it is too early to tell for sure but the early results are encouraging. For my application anyway. Good luck

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2000 F-250 Super Duty, SuperCab XLT, Oxford white with medium grey cloth captains chairs, 5.4L Triton V8 (260 HP version!), 4R100 4 Speed Automatic Transmission, 4 wheel ABS, Deluxe Aluminum Wheels, Trailer Towing Package, Class IV Hitch, Reece load distribution system, Escort Sensor II Electronic Brake controller, K&N filter, Sure Stop towing skirt, "Westin" black powder coated step bars, "White-White" head lamps, Herculiner bed liner.

 

I have the F350 crewcab instead of the F250. I went for the F350 because of the additional capacity and the fact it was very little money more. Mine is a 4x4. The ride overall is pretty good. No it is not like a car and yes it is stiffer than a 1/2 ton truck. But for a truck, I think it rides pretty well and it is my daily driver to and from work. Only complaint I have had about the ride with mine is the fact that the front end sat 2" lower than the rear end and it sorta nosed into curves and sharp turns, etc. A leveling kit on the front end cured that problem.

I have a diesel and will not comment on fuel economy. I stated my opinion about the 5.4 in the SuperDuty truck here before and got chastised for having such an opinion. I will say that unless you put at least 100k miles on your truck, you should not consider the diesel if you want to factor in payback.

Here is a link to a mileage survey from another forum which may give you some indication of fuel economy...
http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/superduty/288.html#

[This message has been edited by RickK (edited 03-30-2000).]

 

When I went test driving different trucks, I always tried to take both my kids with me. Most times they were sort of indifferent as to what I was driving, not caring one way or the other. But the day I test drove a F250 Lariet Crew Cab both kids wanted me to buy it on the spot!!! The F150 Supercrew finally made it to my Ford dealer and I took the kids to see it. Both said "no-way" when they saw the back seat. Trips in my crew-cab are great. My 6 year old likes to take his "colection" of coloring books and he uses the arm rest as a table. I will pack a small drink cooler and it sits on the floor right behind the center console. I can even reach it. The truck rides very nice. Turning is a chore, though you do get used to it. You tend to pay a lot more attention to not getting into tight spots!! Parking?? Well, I always parked way out in the parking lot with my other truck so that was nothing new. What is different is that I take more than one space. Can't help it, the truck is huge!! The crew cab has child locks too. These are handy for me because my 6 year old tends to want to get out before I'm ready for him to. Draw backs: no turn off switch up front for the passenger air bag. Kids MUST ride in the back because of that. Big turning radius. Forget about ever doing another 3 point turn. I have managed it in 5 though. Hugh blind spots when using rear view mirrors. I added those little round mirrors, problem solved. Rear slider might as well be in Alaska, I have to stop the truck and get in the back to open or close it (if kids are not w/me). Another problem I've found is neighbors suddenly needing you to run to the supply store for something big for them. Or they have something big they wanted transported or they want you to pull something.
My dealer doesn't have any CC on the lot. The last one I saw come in was a special order for someone. There's some SC but the CC here is kind of rare. Good luck finding one and take the whole family to test drive it. I don't know if I've answered your questions, my truck is fanstatic. I love it even if I do have to make really wide turns. It's fun to drive especially w/the 6 speed. People also don't pull out in front of you, at least very few will even try it. Hope that helps some.

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2000 F250 Crew Cab 4x2 6 speed Diesel XLT Super Duty, Woodland Green
Power Mirrors, 3.73 LS, Captains Chairs, ARE tonneau top, mud flaps
Trailer tow Pkg, Class IV hitch, sliding rear window, running boards
rear privacy glass, 265/75/16 AS OWL tires, am/fm/cassette/cd
Clarion APA 5240 amp, Memphis speakers:Components front, 5x7 rear, 10"sub
SuperChip, Stepshields, Ventshields on windows, rubber bed mat
rugged liner bedliner on tailgate
unaFORDable (decal on tailgate)

 

You can look below at my signature and see that I have both a Super Duty and an F-150. Although both of them are just supercabs, I still figured I would throw in my 2 cents worth.

I have been driving the Super Duty for almost 2 years now, and I always loved it. I have had the F-150 for about a month, and the ride of the F-150 is MUCH better. Both of these trucks are 4x4 so they will both be rougher than 4x2, but if smooth ride, and not major hauling or trailer towing is what you want, the F-150 is the way to go.

Doug.

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'99 F-250 Super Duty, 4x4, SC, XLT, 5.4L, 4.10LS, Deep Metallic Blue/Med. Graphite, Superchip.

'00 F-150, 4X4, SC, XLT, 5.4L, 3.55LS, Off-Road, Island Blue/Silver with Dark Graphite Interior.

 

As you drive both the F150 and F250, you'll notice that the F250 is a bit more firm in ride.. Firm but not jolting or bouncy..

Actually, if you choose the 5.4L and F250, you probably will want the 4.10 rear end..
It doesn't hurt mpg that much unlike what others have posted.
However, if your getting CC and auto tranny and 4x4, it appears from others posts that you'll get almost the same mpg with the V10 as the 5.4L. Maybe only 1 or 2mpg less.

With my config, I average 15.5 mpg with mixed city/highway driving.. (see signature)


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Y2K F250 XLT SC 4x2 5.4L 5sp 4.10LS

 

First off thanks to everyone for your responses.

OK I took the day off work & went out looking. Living in Utah the high income, large family, 4x4 capital of the world (self proclaimed =]) It wasn't to hard to find crew cabs w/ 4x4 but I wanted 4x2 & non-diesel. Couldn't find exactly which one I wanted but I found a few that were close. I test drove a F250 CC v10 4x4 Long bed, the ride wasn't bad at all, had good acceleration & having the long length (never driven a vehicle that long before) didn't bother me. This truck is definately what I want. I have it all speced out but I need a little more advice. Talking to the dealer (just one of the 6 dealers in the area, 5 are autocollection .) Their finance/order guy said it would take 6-9 MONTHS to get a V10 & by then the 2001 should be out. Does anyone have any information against that? Or does anyone think that the V8 would be OK for me?
Cphilip: you said you are hauling a 4300 pound trailer with a SC v8 & you said it works OK. I won't be hauling anything. Maybe fill up the bed with stuff here & there but I'm not even getting a tow package. Now the CC can't add 4300 pounds so do you think it would maybe work alright? Oh & I must add one thing, DAMN those things are roomy! Could easily & comfortably fit four 6-foot tall men in it.

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quzax@my-f150.com
My-F150.com & My-F250.com (coming soon)

[This message has been edited by quzax (edited 03-31-2000).]

 

I seen plenty construction crews around here driving the V8 Crew cab. They are mostly hauling guys to job sites with tools and ladders all throwed in the back. Those trucks all seem to be doing a fine job.

 

Sure I don't see why not. Unless the four people are going to weigh 1000 pounds each! . I would still get at least the HD cooling package if not the full towing package. You cannot add it on later (other than the tranny cooler) easily. It is cheap insurance. You will be asking the engine and tranny to work and why not make it easier on them. YOu probably will end up with one anyway. From my experience it is hard to find an "on the lot" F250, of any kind, with out the towing package. It might not have the hitch but it usually ahs the cooling part of the package which also give you the sway bar. Dealers just don't order them without because every one that wants a SD wants to do some thing a little extra.

Why not go to the short bed as well and take a little more load off. These things are plentyfull on the lots here. XLT, 5.4L, CC with short beds that is. The standard deluxe work version I call it

You would be suprised at the get up and go of the new 260 HP 5.4L. I know I was very skepticle but I was able to take it on loan and try it with the trailer and it impressed me and still does. Course, now remember, I was coming up from a F150 Lariat 4X4 with a chipped 4.6L but it was a seat of the pants kick for me. Drive one for sure.

 

cphilip? what HD cooling package are you talking about? There is no such package.
The trailer towing and camper packages only have heavier alternators, wiring kits, and stabilizer bars etc.. No extra cooling package or tranny coolers etc is available from the factory on an F250 SuperDuty.




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Y2K F250 XLT SC 4x2 5.4L 5sp 4.10LS

 

Sorry R Bess I ran so many compairisons between the F150 and F250 I started to get confused. The fact that the F250 already had all the cooling stuff standard was one of its main good points and here I go confusing the two! Auxiliary Tranny cooler and engine oil cooling is already there. Sorry I was thinking F150 and we are talking F250.

He is right but you do get the Alternator HD, wireing harness and it 7 pin connector and front sway bar. For only $155.

 

Hey R Bess, Am I missing something? Does this Tranny cooler stand alone and not run through the radiator in the Super Duty? I remember tracing lines from the cooler to the tranny but it dawned on me that I do not remember seeing it go through the radiatior like the F150. If that is so then the radiator is dedicated to engine cooling and the tranny cooler stands alone? Or am I just not remembering thengs right and need to crawl uner there again? Or buy the manuals.

 

My dad has a 2k F-250 cc shortbed. The truck is great, The v-10 has plenty of power, although its sounds like a sewing machine. He has the v-10, 5-speed and 3.73 gears. The mileage is okay avg. about 10-12. which is good for a large engine.