Tell ya what. It is only a concept for sema. Seen lots of crap at that show done by the big three.

The facts are. late 2009 as a 2010 model just announced at the NAIAS in Detroit.

Would I buy one YES after the problems that I have had with all three of my North American vehicle, My current truck as well.

My dad has an F150 crew and A tundra, Both with the big engine.

The Toyota give him 24 to 26 mpg, and 380hp. Show me a North American truck that does that And I'll buy it.

You know that they'll do it right or not at all

 

BS...the Toyota 5.7L 381hp doesn't get 24-26mpg.

According to Edmunds "EPA gas mileage is slightly worse than for the 4.7-liter V8 in 4x4 configuration, at 14 mpg city and 18 mpg highway, compared to 15/17 for the four-wheel-drive 5.7".

In Consumer Guide testing" 4WD CrewMax models with the 5.7 V8 averaged 15.1-16.0 mpg in mostly highway driving"

Highly doubtful that it could be much better than that!

Wishful thinking...

 

That is the numbers, tellin the truth. Can't go by what " the pros" write they are very conservitive with there numbers. Talk to the people that drive them.

Dads Ford is a hog on fuel.

Nice that people think that North American vehicles are so wonderful. I think that they all better get their act together before they go under.

I have many, many friends and clients that have had BIg ticket problems on the big three manufactures, and NO, NONE and NAUTA bit of support from any of them. Me included.

I have ALWAYS supported my local dealerships for N A cars and Trucks, But this time NO WAY.

Believe what you want to believe But I am telling you 24 to 26 MPG on the Tundra. Checked every tank full.

 

OK...I think your getting kilometers mixed up with miles...There is no way those Tundras are getting 24mpg +. I've talked to my bud who has experience with the smaller V8 and his #'s aren't even close to those.

We all can dream........

 

I do know how to do simple math. MPG like I said. Actually it is in miles, came out of the US and sold in Canada that way and is NOT changed to metric.

I owned a Dodge, Gm (gas ) and Now a Ford ( diesel I know ) but have not seen fuel economy like this. Maybe it's a fluke, maybe it's just a rare one. I have done the calculations as well, those are the numbers.

Either way The diesel is coming and we'll have to wait and see what they can or cannot deliver.

 

Stranger things I have seen, heard, and done in life so I am not going to bother going any further with the MPG issue. Good luck with your Tundra.

However, as Ive pointed out before on this post - That truck Toyota thinks is a one ton seems(and reads) to be a conceptual joke with tacked on parts and wimpy power. That truck in that form wouldn't last compared to any of the Big Three offerings on or off the road at this moment in time. That one ton knock off Toyota is a nice dream for the foreign car fan, but probably flat on it's face in the world of reality.

Take it easy...

 

sorry thought everyone had seen these....


took them while i was at sema...

 

 

the new supercharged one is the one i would worry bout.... 5.7 blown... wow

 

Yah...but a 3V 6.8L V10 with a supercharger. Even more "Wow"

Haven't seen one, but I can only imagine.....geez, now I'm dreaming

 

First of all, 24-26 mpg in a tundra? your smoking something! my V6 can barely reach that when i "grandma" it. no way a 5.7L V8 gets that kind of mileage. not to mention that flat and butt-ugly front end is producing so much drag it isnt even funny.

I bet those numbers are going downhill with the engine off


BTW, what little ounce of love I had for the tundra just died

minus 1 million kudos, japan!

i dont care if im broken down on the side of the road with my truck blazing afire in the middle of a hurricane, i WILL NEVER accept ANY help from a tundra, lets alone THAT ONE! Ughh.....*shudders*

 

Hey guys not trying to start any wars here.

Of course you wont get milage with a V6 too much weight for power rating. A V6 should not even be offered in a truck,

My Ford Dually I only get an average of 12 to 16 mpg, but thats an average, I use it for towing, I expect that, My best is only 16 and that is a stretch. I also weigh in at 11000 kg or around the 20000 lb mark

I have seen and calculated the numbers on the Tundra of dads.
Those are them.

Gee I wonder what truck got truck of the year...... oh ya Toyota.

Joe Gibbs racing left Chevy and went to Toyota... Think that Joe doesn't know something. Watch what thy do right out of the box atThe Daytona.

As for the Sema truck Toyota, that show is not the venu that any Production Vehicle will be introduced.

That will happen at a show Like NAIAS in Detroit or similar. I agree about that one .

The facts are Honda and Toyota are building Vehicles in North America, Matter of fact In Canada and US, Not moving factories and Jobs to Mexico, If you don't agree than you better wake up. NA manufactures like GM, Ford and Dodge look for the lowest production value not the most skilled to put them together. It's all about the $$$$$$$

Look at all the plant closings, than look at Toyota, still hiring and still going strong. ????


What does that tell you.

It's hard to support a company that yanks so many jobs right out from under your own communitys feet know what I mean

Thanks for reading
SV

 

'Can't go by what " the pros" write'...isn't that what you said to me. Lets see here -The F150, Chevy Silverado, and lately the 2008 Super Duty have all received various 'awards'.

A nice example: https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=317115
https://www.f150online.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=316709

The Super Duty has never been about MPG - ever!!

Look on the road, look at the real world and you still see construction, military, foreign military, city management, ambulence, firefighter, police, and industrial applications buying and using US made trucks and their engines because they need real world, dependable, reliable performance. They can't spend their money on fixing a Honda, Toyota, and even Mitsubishi when it falls apart. We can go on countless angles here, but you get the overall idea. Yes, this even appies to Canada and a number of countries across both ponds.

Go play with your Toyota in the 'sandbox'. I have real duties and rough work to do in my real truck...

Toyota makes good product, no doubt, but it isn't for applications listed above and that's what the Super Duty is made for. Maybe in the future Toyota may get it right - it ain't happenin' today...

No wars bro, just some info to put in your pipe and puff on...

 

Amen Pagnew! People who use their trucks for work buy Super Duty. It's a truck first and everything else is secondary!

 

Nice to see that you live in the real world with blinders on.

When I buy a Truck I expect it to be tough, durable and reliable.

Did I find that with my Ford yes, yes and NO. Would I buy another, probably not based on Ford's lack of customer service, which I won't get into.

As far as your idea of Foreign manufactures and there Cost of fixing them, maybe you should take them blinders off and really take a close look at the components that make up your Ford truck. Not all of them are MADE IN THE USA or CANADA. Try China, Japan, Mexico and India just to name a few.

There is no such vehicle that is 100 % made in USA and CANADA and if you think there is, it is you that is smokin.

Its funny you mention all the service vehicle, I've seen just as many of those sitting in the dealers lots waiting for parts as you say the Foreign vehicles would be in your opinion.

I have had all three makes, and have had problems with all. I'll wait and see what is offered.