I REFUSE TO BE A PART OF THIS THREAD.



knotganaduet....woodnbprudant....

 

That's cool. Though I personally haven't seen that between my neib's truck and mine...doesn't mean a situation like that doesn't exsists somewhere else.

So with that...C'mon RollingRock - join in the fun

MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HIS BLESSINGS TO ALL YOU FOLKS

 

Here we go again, eh rollingrock? lol I saw you posted about not posting and I HAD to say HI! lol

Im not gonna be part either lol

 

I currently have a 07 150 with the 5.4 and a 08 250 with the 6.8, the 250 makes the 150 feel like a slug! Go with the 6.8 you wont regret it! Although I have always liked the Diesels, I will not address it here because A. I don't have one, and B. the title of the thread was 5.4 or 6.8. Happy New Years to All!!

 

Interesting you should post this as I have been studying the pros and cons of both. I have driven three new 2008 F-250 6.4L's, and frankly, I am unimpressed with the get-up-and-go compared to my 2007 6.0L. The truck, however, is fabulous. Two 2008's were okay - after they decided to get moving, and the third, which I drove a few days ago, wouldn't get out of it's own way. I seriously thought something was wrong with it. My old 2007 F-150 5.4L would have handed this 6.4L it's butt, and certainly my wifes 2005 V-10 Excursion would have, too.

So, for the miles I put on a week/month/year, I am considering going back to an F-150... again. It equals some vehicle savings, and some fuel savings as well as a better ride. Now, the V-10 F-250 will cost about $4,000 more than a comparably equipped 5.4L F-150. I could use the power to haul my 28 foot travel trailer, but it really is nothing I can't "suffer" with behind an F-150 a few times a year. The big stickler is the value of a V-10 when it's used. Dealers here still won't stock them, nor will they give you anything back when used. They just don't want them. My dealer, who is a good friend, agrees with saving of the $6,000 or so with the V-10, but just will not order one for me. I am sure he would if I pressed, but he keeps trying to push me to an F-150. He insists that he sees the V-10's coming across the aution block substantially less than what a comparably equipped diesel rig generates (less the cost of the diesel option) - so in other words, the V-10 takes a hit. I saw this a couple of years ago when I considered a V-10 then. The loss appears to be a few $1,000, not $500. Maybe to you longtime owners and low mileage drivers that's okay, but for me who burns up a rig every year, the hit is too negative.

 

So your saying that when i go to trade this thing in, in about 3 years i wont get as much because of the V10?

 

Smokewagun isn't necessarily correct. The resale of the new 3V V10 is actually pretty good. Even here in Michigan.

Just a side note: The 05 Excursion has the older 2V V10 - which, unfortunately on older versions of that engine had some mechnaical issues (yes, the ole spark plug shootin' to moon issue). That was resolved, however, a few bad apples tarnished the barrel.

The $4k extra from a new 'new' F150 V8 to the 'used 'F250 V10 not only gets you more power, but stronger frame, axles, suspension, and other HD components. It depends on what year - how many miles, etc. The term used is bit ambigous..If we are talking about a new (05 and later) 3V V8 F150 compared to a used (04 and earlier) 2V V10 F250 than I can understand his point - to a certain degree.

Also, SteveV - you will get better resale value with the 6.8L V10 than a 5.4L V8 in a same year comparable equipped Super Duty.

 

Hey, anything can happen in three years. But for today, what I do know is that I don't know what the market is like in PA, but here in N. Illinois, the few dealers I have contacts with really want no part of a V-10 for used inventory - at least not at OUR price. They'll "take" one if they don't have a great investment in it. I guess it's still the gas price uncertainty. I have considered one each time I have traded over the last few years, and I get the same story, and they never have any new V-10's on the lot or on order. All I am saying is that I see dealers here ignoring the KBB and NADA values with V-10 trucks and making potential traders take a $1,000+ hit because the truck has a V-10. I still don't think that will make me shy away from a V-10 if I really decide I'd like one over a diesel. The outdated V-10 in our past Excursion was rather impressive, and that's not as nice as the new 3 valve V-10 today.

 

Pagnew, I agree with you on most of your post, but I think resale is dependent on local. I bought new trucks in N. Wisconsin for sixteen years for $4k less than the closest deal in N. Illinois. Why? I think that Wisconsin is "truck" country, not this urban country Caddy crap like most yuppies in N. Illinois. Here, it's more about buying a big diesel for show.

Oh, the $4k difference I was talking about was a new F-150 (5.4L) to a new F-250 (V-10). Price one out today on Build and Price and you'll see. I agree the Superduty is so much more truck, but as a daily driver/commuter and weekend warrior, I don't know if the Superduty really fits the bill. The concern I mentioned in my reply above is also that the V-10 has many bad apples in the barrel that get the 11-12mpg, where the F-150 has more in the 15-16 range (or better). With the way gas prices are now a days, a dealer that sells alot of trucks for "look at me in my BIG truck" kind of guys, the V-10 is a negative as fuel economy is a concern. Now, our 2005 V-10 could get 16mpg on the interstate, and I did on several occasions traveling to Pigeon Forge. Let's face it... that's not the norm. If you polled 100 people, 85 would probably tell you the V-10 is a gas hog - the sitgma is still out there... just like the Excursion being a fuel hog (while many reported close to 18-19 with the diesel. Marketing has screwed the V-10 value, and it still hasn't recovered. I wish it would as I loved my V-10, but I am afraid to take another bath.

 

Well - we agree to disagree and we both have some points.

Anyway...HAPPY NEW YEAR

Nobody should buy a Super Duty with MPG being the biggest concern, Everyone knows they suck gas in any form...Diesel, 5.4L, or 6.8L. They represent a different class of truck over the 1/2 tons.

West Michigan and North Michigan can definately fill the bill for 'truck' country credentials too.

Happy New Year...

 

diesel will pay for themselves when it comes time to trade them in... as well as in oil changes....

I would go Diesel all the way 100 tmes over again...

 

My f-250 4x4 with the 5.4 does everything I need it to and more. It is extremely fast for a truck this size. I can smoke both back tires just by hitting the acc. about 3/4. I've got 3.73 gears as well. It also tows anything I hook to it and tows it well(tractors, bobcats, hay, you name it). I also get 13 mpg and thats with a heavy foot. It's also got a 3 inch lift.

 

Well said! Happy Ney Year, too!

 

Thanks Smokewagun

Keep on truckin'

 

the v-10 is a great motor and the gas mileage is not worse than the 5.4 f-150 i had. i have been thinking about buying something else because i don't tow anything anymore, but the market here is not great for v-10s.