My 2001 F-250 super duty crew cub sort bed 4x4 6.8L had on the title when I bought it 5225lb as unladen weight (which I assume is "Curb Weight"). I registered it as non -commercial vehicle as everyone does so I can drive it on the parkways in NY (no commercial traffic is allowed on parkways in NY). I was stopped by a cop last week and he issued me a ticket for driving a commercial vehicle on the parkways saying the DMV made a mistake and they shouldn't have registered it as non -commercial vehicle because it is well over the 5500LB limit in NY for a non -commercial vehicle. can anyone help??

 

you should have showed him the sticker in the door jamb of the truck showing the "curb" weight which is under 5500lbs and said thank you have a nice day and drove off.

 

Take it to court and have it dismissed - it's the states mistake and not yours (if that's the case)...

 

All I can tell you is that here in Ontario, if a vehicle meets the definition of a CMV (Commercial Motor Vehicle), which a pickup truck does (having delivery body permanently attached, blah blah blah), it gets commercial plates and registration. It makes no difference if it's for personal use or business. Commercial plates and permit are what it must have by law.

 

To add to this here in Canada, with commercial plates you must have a CVOR (commercial vehicle operator registration) which allows you and your company to operate on the road, commercial insurance not personal, do a daily inspection of the vehicle ( circle check) yearly saftey of vehicle and if towing a trailer combination weight over 4500 kg or 10000 lbs must also have a Class A lisence ( semi lisence) to drive it. And does not limit the combination to fifth wheel, it also includes pull type trailers.

Failure to do any of this will result in very heafty fines ( from 3000$ to 5000$ +)

This does not apply to any recreational vehicles like camper trailers or fifth wheel type trailers. and should not apply to a personal vehicle either.

 

Yikes... I better be careful when I take my truck down to NYC. I know my truck weighs over 5500 lbs. I totally forgot and I've got a friend that lives down there.

I've gotta keep that in mind when I go down there next time. Luckily, I haven't taken my truck down there yet.

 

Hi stevlin.
You don't actually require a CVOR just because you have commercial plates. There is a personal use exemption in place for any CMV that has a gross weight, or registered gross weight of not more than 6000 KG's (13,000 lb's). This is a brand new regulation which went into effect late last year. The CVOR by the way, is only needed in the province of Ontario. Out of province trucks do not require a CVOR.

Once you get over those weights however, there are certain laws that must be met documentation wise.

As you mentioned though, trucks registered in Ontario that are not being used for personal use (business/compensation), do require the CVOR, pre-trip, log book, blah blah bah.


An A licence is only required when the towed vehicle (trailer, not excluding a camper) exceeds 4600 KG's, but the A licence is determined by the weight of the towed unit only.

The fine for driving with an improper class of licence is 390 bux.

Most people driving 3/4 tons won't fall within these guidelines anyway. For those that do, chances are they're already aware of the laws within their own jurisdiction, and as long as they're meeting them there, Ontario accepts them here. For example, when safety stickers are required, Ontario will accept proof of a safety completed out of province, whether that be another province or state.

 

An A lisence is for the clasification of 4600kg and over combined weight of truck and trailer. For you guys in the US this is the drivers lisence classification you must have (here ) to drive a Semi Truck and trailer AKA a vehicle in combination with a trailer that weighs over 4600kg or 10000 lbs which can include 3/4 ton and larger pickups

All the weight lisence is on the truck not on the trailer. My truck is registered for 10000kg and the trailer is registered for the weight of the trailer 6160kg. I pay 350 $ every year for the sticker , That's based on the weight of the truck.

As the GVW goes up so does the sticker price.

 

No stevlin, an A licence is determined by trailer weight only. Any towed vehicle weighing more than 4600 KG's requires an A. The only time you combine weight to determine class of licence is when you're talking about a D licence.
Yes the RGW (registered gross weight) is what you pay for when getting the validation sticker for the plates on the power unit. The only time you have to unclude the weight of the trailer in the RGW of power unit is when the trailer exceeds 2800 KG's.

 

Glad we don't have some of the troubles our Canadian brothers have to deal with!!

Can't imagine what it would take to register a Red Ryder wagon up there

 

Its only getting worse,

The MTO wants all 3/4 ton and larger registered if towing a trailer.

Our Gvmt's way of getting more $ out of our pockets, be it for business or personal.

Seems like every year I have to do something to keep my A lisence, either a physical or a written test, after you reach 62 or 65 it's a lot worse

 

every pickup i see on the road has commercial plates round here...

 

as a class A liscence holder here is the code the states live by.
Class Code A - Combination of vehicles, GCWR of 26,001 or more the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed exceeds 10Klbs Includes Class O

Here in Nebraska, its either "farm" plates or "commercial" plates, the commercial issued plates can be also used on OVTR trucks, provided they pay a permit fee every time u cross youro state line. lotsa paper work goes into liscensing also with alot of headaches, i thought we had too many hoops to jump through here in the states, but my headaches came from running a trucking company not liscensing my daily driver.

 

Wow, this thread has been completely hijacked by the Canucks. I think the original poster was looking for responses from people who might actually be familiar with New York laws...aka New York residents.

Wish I could help you. If your door jamb truly says that your unladen weight is under 5500 lbs, then the truck was registered correctly and the cop who wrote the ticket was an idiot. Go to court and get it straightened out. If you don't have time for court, get an attorney to go for you. It should be a simple open and shut case.

 

You guys follow the same laws as we do. You need certain classes of licences for certain sized trucks, and you have to register for weight. Every state and province follow the same rules in these regards.

You must be well versed in New York State law to make such a statement. Do you have a link to back this? I'd like to see how New York does it.

You just contradicted yourself in one post. You state that the OP was looking for a knowledgable response, yet you yourself spew a bunch of crap you know zilch about Well done!