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Old 07-27-2008, 09:11 PM
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I have pulled about 20K lbs with my truck (pintle). However it was short distances (10 miles) between farms and never was bothered by a weighmaster. If I was on a hwy I would have been cited....plus if I was going at speed (over 40 mph) it would have been unsafe.

The F450 Dually would have no problem actualling pulling it, but I don't know about legality as Powerstroke73 mentioned
 

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Old 07-27-2008, 10:38 PM
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Kinda reminds me of what I tow/haul with my F150... in some regard it would be illegal to tow more than 3500 lbs in my config... but yet I've got my GVWR up to 10k lbs... which if I got pulled over, and they weighed my load, and I was at or below 10k lbs, I'd be fine.
 
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Old 07-27-2008, 11:04 PM
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If i remember right towing aything over 10,000 lbs requires a CDL. I haul the load your talking about all the time but i use my F-800 and 20 ton tag trailer with air breaks. Overkill for the load? Yes..but i need that set up to haul my other equipment. If you want to haul both of those machines at the same time i would be looking for atleast a F-650 with around a 10 ton trailer. You do not need USDOT numbers if you are staying in state. If your going to tow this you should atleast do it in a safe manor. Theres enough guys out there now that give the guys doing it leagly enough trouble.
 

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Old 07-27-2008, 11:13 PM
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SteveV hit the nail on the head.

A contractor around here regularly hauls 2 of those BobKats on a pintle hook trailer using a F750 dump truck...
 
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Old 07-27-2008, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveV
If i remember right towing aything over 10,000 lbs requires a CDL. I haul the load your talking about all the time but i use my F-800 and 20 ton tag trailer with air breaks. Overkill for the load? Yes..but i need that set up to haul my other equipment. If you want to haul both of those machines at the same time i would be looking for atleast a F-650 with around a 10 ton trailer. You do not need USDOT numbers if you are staying in state. If your going to tow this you should atleast do it in a safe manor. Theres enough guys out there now that give the guys doing it leagly enough trouble.


Over 10k requires only a med card. My company used to go by that until we were finally able to find in writing where it states that we can tow up to 26k gross with only a med card. Once we hit 26,001 we need a class A.
 
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Old 07-27-2008, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mcr1994
that is a 20,000 lb trailer.


Yes its roughly a 20k load capacity trailer (rated at 25,900 GVW), but as I stated its overkill for hauling your 2 rigs. The weights I stated were gross weights of the trailers. The useable capacity of the trailer are probably around 14k-16k by the time you take out the trailer weight.


You are hauling around alot of very heavy equipment, and I'll bet that you're also hauling other supplies such as tools, shovels, rakes, occasionally dirt, etc. Plus now you're talking about a Kubota with a backhoe attachment. You'd be FAR ahead to get rid of the F450 and step up to an F650 or larger. It'll cost more, but in the end it'll handle the load alot better. Heck you've got to get a CDL anyways to pull this weight around.
 
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Originally Posted by powerstroke73
Yes its roughly a 20k load capacity trailer (rated at 25,900 GVW), but as I stated its overkill for hauling your 2 rigs. The weights I stated were gross weights of the trailers. The useable capacity of the trailer are probably around 14k-16k by the time you take out the trailer weight.


You are hauling around alot of very heavy equipment, and I'll bet that you're also hauling other supplies such as tools, shovels, rakes, occasionally dirt, etc. Plus now you're talking about a Kubota with a backhoe attachment. You'd be FAR ahead to get rid of the F450 and step up to an F650 or larger. It'll cost more, but in the end it'll handle the load alot better. Heck you've got to get a CDL anyways to pull this weight around.
Powerstroke is right you need to upgrade your truck or keep the one you have and buy a medium duty dump truck to pull that kind of weight. As far as the license goes make sure you are properly licensed per you state for towing that kind of weight becaue I know MDOT loves guys that do this as it means many tickets and lots of money for every violation that they find and I have seen them tear apart a truck on the side of the road before. You may be able to get away with a class B CDL as long as you dont exceed the weight restiction of 60,000LB of the license for your combination of truck and trailer with its load. Either way just make sure you do it the right way the first time because all it takes is on accident and a smart lawyer could make things very miserable for you and cost you alot more than a few thousand it takes to get the right set up to do the job.
 
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Old 07-28-2008, 03:47 PM
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No to pull what he wants to he will need his Class A, not B. Class B is only for a straight truck ex(box truck, dump truck, etc..) and your only allowed to tow 10,000 lbs with the Class B. You need the Class A for this weight.. Theres is almost no way off avoiding the CDL to pull these machines at the same time.
 
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Dang it!! I forgot that class B had that restriction on it. Bottom line is that it is cheaper and safer to get the proper rig and license to tow this the first time rather than learn the hard way.
 



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