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Old 07-26-2008, 10:09 PM
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the trailer is no problem...but it depends what your putting on it...
 
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Old 07-26-2008, 10:58 PM
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a bobcat or 2


t190 and a 334 excavator.
 
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With a dually it should be no problem.
 
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Old 07-27-2008, 01:31 AM
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id be looking at a fifth wheel myself with that kind of weight. it will pull so much nicer and load the truck more evenly.
 
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Old 07-27-2008, 01:51 AM
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Yes, but don't expect it to win a race.
 
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Old 07-27-2008, 04:17 AM
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Um if your towin AND expecting to win a race, I think you should me admitted to a mental hospital or buy a tundra because we all know those are the fastest and most capable trucks out there
 
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:42 AM
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its a work truck not a hot rod. ive considered fifth wheels because the trailer will sag?
 
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Old 07-27-2008, 10:15 AM
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The safe towing specs on a 2008 F-450 SuperDuty is 24,500 LBS!.....It should handle the load on that trailer just fine, using a 5th wheel!........
 
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Old 07-27-2008, 10:20 AM
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yeah i figured that,wouldnt the front sag alot on that trailer unless im lifted?
 
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Old 07-27-2008, 12:29 PM
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The pin weight of that trailer is going to be too much for anything less than an F650. The tounge weight of the trailer is going to be insane as others have pointed out. To be honest you are going to have a hard time finding a light duty towing setup that can legally handle that kind of weight and still be under a CDL requirement.


The problem you have is that just the truck itself will be pushing 10k lbs depending how you option it and what bed you get. If you have a large dump box or flat bed you'll probably be up around 12k. The lightest you could get it should be somewhere around 9k. Now to the trailer. The trailer you found weighs AT LEAST 5500 lbs empty. My guess is that its 6k or higher. There is alot of steel in there that is taking away from your towing capacity. Looking on Ford's site the 08 F450 in a crew cab pickup configuration has a GCWR of 29k (if you have the 4.30 gears). That right there puts you in Class A CDL territory when you put the trailer on because its over 26k. This means that bumper hitch total trailer weight can't exceed 16k. There is no way that you can haul both excavators on that trailer an be legal.


Heres some cliff notes:
T190 weight = 7615lbs
334 weight = 7538 lbs
Trailer weight = 5500lbs+
Truck weight = 9K+ depending on configuration

Total = 29653lbs best case scenario, plus this requires a CDL and USDOT numbers if its being used for a business. An F450 can do it, but it can't be a bumper hitch trailer, and it must have 4.88 gears to get the 33k GCWR option.
 
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Old 07-27-2008, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by powerstroke73
The pin weight of that trailer is going to be too much for anything less than an F650. The tounge weight of the trailer is going to be insane as others have pointed out. To be honest you are going to have a hard time finding a light duty towing setup that can legally handle that kind of weight and still be under a CDL requirement.


The problem you have is that just the truck itself will be pushing 10k lbs depending how you option it and what bed you get. If you have a large dump box or flat bed you'll probably be up around 12k. The lightest you could get it should be somewhere around 9k. Now to the trailer. The trailer you found weighs AT LEAST 5500 lbs empty. My guess is that its 6k or higher. There is alot of steel in there that is taking away from your towing capacity. Looking on Ford's site the 08 F450 in a crew cab pickup configuration has a GCWR of 29k (if you have the 4.30 gears). That right there puts you in Class A CDL territory when you put the trailer on because its over 26k. This means that bumper hitch total trailer weight can't exceed 16k. There is no way that you can haul both excavators on that trailer an be legal.


Heres some cliff notes:
T190 weight = 7615lbs
334 weight = 7538 lbs
Trailer weight = 5500lbs+
Truck weight = 9K+ depending on configuration

Total = 29653lbs best case scenario, plus this requires a CDL and USDOT numbers if its being used for a business. An F450 can do it, but it can't be a bumper hitch trailer, and it must have 4.88 gears to get the 33k GCWR option.

it has 4.88 gears and that option also. im looking into fifth wheels now i guess.
 
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You're still completely missing the point here. You are looking at trailers that are WAY WAY too big for the load you're talking about hauling. To be able to carry loads that large the trailers get progressively heavier. The load you're talking about hauling is only slightly over 15k. You need to be looking at 18-20k GWR trailers depending on what the unladen weight of the trailer is. You do understand how all the towing and vehicle weights work don't you?


You also are not going to be able to haul your 2 bobcats at the same time without first getting your class A CDL. The size of truck and trailer required to pull a 15k payload puts you in excess of 26k.
 
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Old 07-27-2008, 08:53 PM
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that is a 20,000 lb trailer.
 


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