Ok guys need some help from the diesel gurus.

I know that y'all can't give me a definitive answer without seeing both trucks, but I'm gonna ask anyway. First, my truck:

2004 lariat f150, 4x4, 6" bds lift, edge programmer, 140k miles.

His truck:
2005 F250 lariat amarillo edition, 100k miles, sct tuner, arp studded heads, egr delete, new hpop.

Both trucks are clean, and I know mine but his looks to be well taken care of. He wants to trade mine for his plus I put in $5k. Mine kbb's at 15k stock, his 24k. This seems like a no brainer, but I'm not completely sure. I know all about 6.0 problems, but they seem to be addressed. I've been in the market for a 250 for awhile, but I never was sure if I wanted to get rid of my truck or hang on to it, as its paid off. BTW, he's asking 18k without a trade.

Sorry for long post but I wanted to get all info out there. Any other questions let me know. Thanks guys.

 

Not to bad of a deal... I know around my location not many people or places go off KBB. Usually knock off another 2-3k off the kbb price and thats when you can get the vehicle sold... Sounds like he has already pretty much "bullet proofed" the 6.0 so it doesnt sound like a bad deal. 24k here is a little high for a 05 f250...Good luck

 

yea a 6.0 that has the head studs replaced being traded for a f150 sounds good!

 

what tunes? does it have gauges? are you ok driving a big yellow truck haha.

at first glance it doesnt sound like a bad deal at all. just check it out and drive it around first to make sure its not got any hidden issues. id check out the brakes and suspension since its getting close to the time that stuff might wear out.

 

I BELIEVE they are canned tunes he didn't mention anything about custom tunes. He did say he has an egt gauge, not sure if there are others. I would probably get some sort of edge or another product to monitor everything. And the shocks aren't a huge deal as I'm sure the thing will be lifted with new shocks before long anyway ha. And yes I could see myself driving a big yellow truck! I think they look good! I just wish I could convince my better half.

 

Oh and by the way I forgot to mention this in my original post. I asked if he added studs and delete as a precaution, or because he blew the heads. He was honest and told me the truck got hot on him, and the heads were too far off to get resurfaced so he replaced them also. Sound like a red flag, or a problem that was addressed and shouldn't be worried about?

 

the yellow isnt bad really but its better with the black leather interior. i was talking about ball joints more than shocks really. and see what all gauges he might already have but an edge insight cts would be well worth the money to get prior to the trade if your serious about getting a 6.0. itll help you know what your getting and if theres any issues with the FICM or oil cooler

not a red flag really. ask him if they were reman heads from ford or someone else and if they were checked before install for flatness. also who did the work and if oem gaskets were used. it seems like you should be good but its worth asking.

 

I wouldnt be caught dead in yellow but numbers wise makes sense. Not factoring in aftermarket stuff which you really cant, there is probably a 10k difference in orginal price between the two trucks. Beyond getting worse mpg and more maint cost then then F150 you are getting the better vehicle.

One thing to think about is going from an older vehicle with miles to another vehicle with miles, you are going to a vehicle where you dont know the problems. As truthful as people can be things are always left out in a used sale.

 

Ya completely understandable about vehicles with miles. I've never owned a new one before, used is all I've ever driven. I've been pretty lucky so far, they've all treated me well. I don't think this one with 100k on it is too bad. That's where my current truck started, and its been great. I know I'll have higher maintenance costs with a diesel, and I really don't worry about that too much. I don't hardly ever pay a mechanic so parts is all I'll be buying. And gas mileage, I don't know if you've ever driven a lifted 150, or maybe its just mine, but if that 250 doesn't get better mpg I'll be completely disappointed. I avg about 10 mpg now.

 

I'd do it. You'd be lucky for $15k for your truck, his you can sell for 18k trade in.

Then again, do you want another truck with 100k miles, or lower mileage? i guess it depends how long you wanna keep it.

 

Exactly what I've been thinking. I know I'll never get my money back on what I put into it, but this seems like a great deal. If I went by kbb value (which as said above isn't always what it's worth, but is a good starting point) his is worth 24k in good condition, 26k in excellent. By me giving him mine plus 5k, that's like selling mine for 19k with a 5k down payment. I'm not gonna get 19 for mine from anyone. I've never owned a car with less than 100k miles on it. I bought my current truck with 113k which is my lowest. High miles don't scare me if it's well taken care of.

As a side note, you learn something new everyday. Apparently, they didn't produce amarillo editions until 2006. His is a yellow lariat with black leather. Only difference is there's no red stitching, and no amarillo badges inside. He added an amarillo badge to the rear panel, so I assumed it was that edition. Doesn't bother me at all really.

 

KBB is WAY off.

It said my 05 was worth 25-26k when i sold it a year ago, i paid $23,500 a year and a half prior and 40k miles less. At 20,500 i was getting no offers. Traded it in w/ 117k miles and a few mods (Studs, EGR delete, 2" level and new 35" MT's) and got 18,500 pretty quickly from a dealer.

 

I knew it was off but I didn't think it was that far off! Well, we'll see what happens. I'm going to look at it Saturday. I think if it drives as well as it looks I'll be taking it home. Hopefully it will end up being worth it.

 

Ok guys hopefully last question. If I buy an insight, what am I looking for? I know there's four big things I need to look at but I can't remember what they are. I know egt, and a couple different temperatures but not sure which ones. And what should they read? I'm assuming there is some sort of baseline that the motor is running strong, not too hot, etc. I have a monochrome in my truck so I'm sure it's pretty similar. Thanks

 

Egt ect eot and ficm v in my opinion are the main ones.

You want the ficm voltage to be around 48-49 at all times. Maybe 47 at times.

The eot vs ect delta needs to be measured while cruising on the hwy after about 10 minutes at 60-65 mph mostly flat. (truck at operating temp first). This is to check the oil cooler efficiency and make sure it's not clogged or getting clogged. General rule of thumb is 12-15 starting to go bad, and 15 plus it's clogged. Over 25 and it's playing with fire

I have pics of a motor that blew both coolers and the head gaskets before I tore it down. It's not pretty.