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Old 03-07-2013, 08:05 PM
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What to Do, What to Do.

So, the mileage is going on the Nifty 250 a little quicker than I hoped. Not like the old 65,000 a year I used to do, but more like 25,000.
I made out good with this truck as it has the 6.4L, but runs like a top. I average 16-17 rural driving, and have hit 20+ on the interstate with no issues. I am an easy driver, and it is all hand-calculated.
So, to the point... I wanted to delete and fix this truck up to my liking, but now I'm not sure. The truck is a 2010 Harley Edition, with every option, and Ford confirmed only 580 were built. I have 564, or something close. Will this truck ever be worth anything? It seems to pull over $40k used as it sits, but after it approaches 80k miles, the values will drop.
What would you all do. Run the snot out of it, or run it to 65k and dump it. I know the thoughts on the 6.4L and am not too worried. This is my second one without issue, and the three 6.0's I had we're flawless, too. I just need new tires, shocks, and want to do some goodie adders, and hate to drop the cash if I'd be better starting with a new truck (6.7L) with no miles.
 
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Old 03-07-2013, 10:48 PM
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Good question there. My game plan was to roll with a 6.0, get the mandatory bullet proofing done, and keep it as long as possible.
 
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Old 03-08-2013, 08:44 AM
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Keep it if you like the truck. I'm going through the same battle right now but mines going to roll over to 200,000 miles this year and I'm piling the miles on quick at the moment. The only reason I'm contemplating getting a different one is because I need the extra payload for a larger 5er and goosneck trailer plus the 8ft box for obvious reasons.
 
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:31 AM
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Run it till the powertrain warranty is done, then delete and tune it.
 
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Old 03-08-2013, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by glc
Run it till the powertrain warranty is done, then delete and tune it.
I'd love to delete and tune, but the kabash the Feds put on H&S has things ground to a halt. If I can find a true delete, I can't see any reason for tuning other than towing.

I really could use a 350, do that is a reason I would consider upgrading sometime, but the 6.4L pulls like a freight train.
 
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Old 03-09-2013, 02:08 AM
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How can you turn off the regen and keep it from setting codes without a tune?
 
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Well first thing is the truck is not going to be worth much of anything in 10 years when these motors have all melted down and blown up from the regen process. Metal fatigue can not be argued with continuous 1600ish degree regens. Heads, turbos, pistons, ect are simply going to fail after time.

Tune it, delete it, and never cross 1200 freighted in the hills, or 800 just crusin' around

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Old 03-09-2013, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by adrianspeeder
Well first thing is the truck is not going to be worth much of anything in 10 years when these motors have all melted down and blown up from the regen process. Metal fatigue can not be argued with continuous 1600ish degree regens. Heads, turbos, pistons, ect are simply going to fail after time.

Tune it, delete it, and never cross 1200 freighted in the hills, or 800 just crusin' around

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With all due respect, where do you find 1600 degree regens? I monitor all sensors, and the engine may hit 600+ when towing, the filter itself 1200, but never have I pulled 1600 anywhere in the system... Even towing a 10k brick. Please explain.
 
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Old 03-09-2013, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by glc
How can you turn off the regen and keep it from setting codes without a tune?
Typo... If I CAN'T find a true delete. I can't see doing a non-delete tune except for towing, where it will make a difference. A non- delete wont net better daily driving mileage numbers, but move the torque band and shifting to keep the truck in a better power range to tow, thus better mileage. But... Only an mpg or two. A Bullydog or H&S non-delete is just under $600. That takes a lot miles to pay for it, unless it helps temps to prolong engine life.
 
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Old 03-09-2013, 04:03 PM
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I agree - not worth a tune without a delete.
 
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Old 03-10-2013, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Smokewagun
With all due respect, where do you find 1600 degree regens? I monitor all sensors, and the engine may hit 600+ when towing, the filter itself 1200, but never have I pulled 1600 anywhere in the system... Even towing a 10k brick. Please explain.
That was the numbers back when these trucks came out, and everyone including myself were working with Spartan to figure out how to tune, and make em run cooler. Using an laser temp gun I saw high 15's unloaded regen at the filter, and that scared me enough to fawk the warranty back when I did the delete, and waited with the first batch of tunes for the six speed.

Now from the EGR sensor on the tuner I'll hit 1200 in the throttle towing, and 600-800 in the throttle empty.

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Smokewagun, have you looked at Spartan for a delete? If my next one ends up being a 6.4 they're who I'm calling for tunes and deletes.
 
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Originally Posted by dsq3973
Smokewagun, have you looked at Spartan for a delete? If my next one ends up being a 6.4 they're who I'm calling for tunes and deletes.
Considered Spartan, but figured H&S was the best. I'd take either if available, but it seems most have locked up.
 
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Originally Posted by Smokewagun
Considered Spartan, but figured H&S was the best. I'd take either if available, but it seems most have locked up.
You can get the Spartan here: http://www.advancediesel.net/Spartan...PHALANX-64.htm

I considered one, but dropping nearly $2k by the time I get the other pieces was a bit much for me.
 
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Old 03-13-2013, 06:45 PM
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That's just the programmer/tunes, not the actual delete kits.
 


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